Kim Davis - Unethical

She is being sued , not prosecuted . Be careful with your activism . I'd hope activism sourced from an ethical position
would be enacted ethically .

 

No, I fault the judge for dragging this out for so long to preserve the peace (and perhaps avoid personal repurcussions from a vehemently ignorant and bigoted Christian community). She should have been arrested much quicker and LEGAL ACTIONS should have been more decisive - sending a message to other government officials that your personal beliefs do not allow you to violate the law and discriminated against certain citizens who had been granted equal access after so long a struggle.

How would this play out in 1967, with county clerks in Virginia and those other backwater Southern states refusing to issue marriage licenses to interracial couples?

I can't find any accounts of racist bigots doing that because it violated their religious or Southern Heritage or whatever lame belief they had. I suppose seeing U.S. Marshalls and National Guard troops enforcing the integration laws may have deterred them.

 

I am personally acquainted with town of Morehead , KY . Otherwisely , I wouldn't bother
writing with you . My host for a couple weeks was the Kentucky Center for Traditional
Music . The people are gentle in the hills . The moon shine's bright .

Again - Davis violated no law . And it's my fancy to think the judge acted from his understanding of
Natural Law in making his order which Davis , at first , defied . The issuance of licenses to all then
proceeded . I have not heard of any criminal charges filed . It'd be big in the news ?

And the Supreme Court makes no laws . It simply ruled once again that govt actions be equally applied .

Issuing no marriage licenses whatsoever was the Davis' action that equally applied . But , yes ,
people are fond of marriage and many would be upset if the govt got out of the marriage business .
By govt I mean a state government . Marriage is not addressed by the federal constitution though
does get acknowledgement in law ... as in Married Filing Jointly .

 

How on earth would you know that?

Look, I have seen it way to many times to count now, way to many times with my 44 years on this earth to be ever convinced otherwise.....where even their own partner, the more monogamy orientated one, or dare I say it, the less gayer one......is either totally clueless or totally in denial...let alone any of their friends around them, no matter how close they think they are

Its just a numbers game, you dont even have to be hot, well not in a conventional way, just something far from the norm. You just represent something thats 1 in 200 guys, then if only a mere 10% of all the other guys, 20/200, want that, then its 20 of them to 1 of you

I mean, really, do I have to say it?, they are guys

Doesnt matter if you only ever seem them together for decades, dont think either are like that becuase they will spend saturday afternoons with you and other friends rumaging around flea markets or brunch and having a good ole chin wag....doesnt mean anyone ever knows

 

On that aspect though, mockery of the sanctity of marriage, how is she any different to me? At least she believed in it enough to make a couple of attempts

Before all this became news, before she was backed by whichever group who from thence forth told her what to say....

What were her actual reasons for doing it, what were her actual opinions on the bible, religion, gay people

Does anyone actually know, is now anyone ever going to know?

This thread is seriously doing my head in

 

for all we know it could of been a get rich gofundme scheme, however the gofundme site put the brakes on bigots ..

 

Because initially, it all sounded way too personal, no cant say I'd be 100% sure, but I'd put money on the real reason she was pissed of was becuase she got dumped by some guy for a guy like 20 years ago, or she sprung one of these ex husbands in bed with a guy.

Then once she did get attention, then it just became about being something other than a mudane office worker

Then the whole thing just gets over run by a whole bunch of opposing political groups concentrating on their self interests.

What the hell does any of this have to do with, gay people, gay marriage, the bible, religion, even the constitution

 

How would I know that they aren't in polyamorous relationships?

The answers is: Because they aren't in polyamorous relationships.

 

What offence has she been charged with ? I really don't know

Oh , never mind . I'll wait to hear of it in on NPR . The info will be released by the
Kentucky attorney general .

 

Well, since you asked:

Gay Ppl
Are maginalized in our mainstream culture. Recently laws have changed making that less so, such as finding sexual perversion laws (sodomy laws) unconstitutional, allowing gay ppl to openly serve in the military and gay ppl to legally marry.

Gay Marriage
Same-gender couples won the right to legally marry in the U.S. just like opposite gender couples.

The Buybull
A 4K year old book full of archaic bullshit that is irrelevant in our modern culture but still subcribed to by ignorant, gullible, bigots.

Religion
What ppl believe is truth, usually unsubstantiated superstitions that requires faith and which disdains critical thot.

The Constitution
Our founding document from the late 18 Century, put together by some pretty insightfull men of the Enlightenment and the main law of our nation. It was equipped with an Amendment process to update to changing times and an oversight process in the Supreme Court to determine if lower level laws comply with the Constitution.

The bottom line to the problem at hand is the Surpeme Court finally determined in light of advances in our cultural growth that discriminating against gay couples and preventing them from marrying went against the Amendment 14 which says you cannot discriminate against some U.S. citizens differently than others and when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that this included not discriminating against same-gender couples marrying, one religious fanatic court clerk who misinterpreted shit from her Buybull broke the fucking law by denying gay couples marriage licenses.

 

I dont know Shale, the bible stuff there does sound a bit too agro, maybe foot off the gas a little

I always liked the bit when he parts the red sea, very George Lucas

 

Get some other fucking job then. It's always the same same with these recently converted religious zealots.

 

I just learned that the Pope met with Kim Davis last week and told her to stand firm.

 

I couldn't care less. The pope and the catholic church mean nothing to me.