really wanna try it...but nobody wants to try it with me!! lol ... is it best to have someone with you while tryin it for first time?
It doesn't really make a difference. If you want to k-hole then you won't know if anyone's there or not anyway.
I dont understand how you guys use ketamine as a recreational substance. I think its only good use is for knocking people out a small dose is disorienting and nausious. a large dose sends you into a khole, which leaves you uncoordinated, helpless, and confused. When i was in my k-hole i felt as if i was living in a stephen king novella, not fun at all. I use K to make people helpless, im surprised you guys use it for fun.
why do you make people helpless? and dude you don't always understand a drug until you get experience with it. my first k hole was VERY disturbing on a deep level. After that though I began understanding it more and now I am getting as much therapeutic value from k holes as from good deep rolls.
I make people helpless so I can play with them... So you think if i choose to k-hole again that i would have a better experience? From my last experience i decided k had nothing to offer that i enjoyed. What about ketamine do you find appealing?
^^ This coming from the guy that says that smoking meth is the best feeling in the world. Grain of salt.
How may we feel what others feel and how the others may feel what each one feels... let's take care of our own judgements...
word...i've only done it once, but I will admit that it scared me little, when I started to seem to exist in several spatial dimensions simultaneously. I swear I went somewhere, physically left the room but theres no way I could have because I was incapable of moving at that point. It seemed like I could see "through" objects, and the spatial geometry was warped in some odd way that I can't even begin to explain. K is the shit!
This was posted some time ago, but just for anyones own safty, never do any unknown substance without someone who can help or get you help if you need it..Be safe... and enjoy the shit out of what your do'in!!! haha
I came across some amazing k today. Supposedly it wasn't vet K, it was apparently synthesized instead of stolen. anyways, it came in powder instead of crystalls and i was kinda skeptical. I weighed it out and put it back into the bag, and at most 8-10mg remained on the paper i weighed it on. So i snorted it, expecting minimal effects or none at all. however i felt the effects tht i usually get from 50-75 mg, all from a tiny pile of K. Im glad i didnt snort 50mg, i may have k-holed. I was told it contained a higher proportion of the more potent isomer....Anyone heard of/know anything about synthed Ketamine?
I used to think k wasnt all that unless combo'd with some MDXX or other substance. But I have changed my oppinion after I got over my fear of needles. Dirty habit, I know... But some drugs were just meant to be iv'ed or IM'ed. Dope is one of them- I had a brief love affair and will never touch that bitch again... Ketamine is another that really needs to be banged to get the best effects (best is subjective, I mean most spiritual and intense, with the least ammount of side effects;nasuea, upset stomach, vomiting, headache...all of which i experience when I snort K). I now am a firm believer that K enables us to open our Chaukras like no other substance and can take us to other planes similar to DMT space. Ive had all different kinds.. Most bottled K is racemic (sp?) Im no chemist but I think that means its a mix of the S and R isomers.. the S isomer is suposedly the more psychedelic of the two, while the R is more responsible for the stumblying and lack of coordination(physical)type effects.. I did have the oppertunity to sample some pure S isomer K yrs back and I did IV it.. Small doses got me very fucked up. I had visuals like shit shifting forms and looking like mini trolls wrapped in robes, yet no out of body type shit that I recall. It was yrs ago and I was still doin dope at the time.. So maybe I didnt have a clear enough mind to meditate and reach the state of mind I did in latr experiments. Last yr I obtained a bunch of liks and instead of selling them I did it all- me and my gf... She is pretty anti hard drug and had never thought of K as a psychedelic, yet after I persuaded her to try combining it with methylone, she swears she saw my aura ( She claimed she has done this in the past while sober but never admitted it or had much control over it)... WE began trying to open chaukras and get into K wholes and communicate while exploring the WHOLE. Or Id lay down and shed lay on top of me and we would shift energy back and forth to each other... Maybe we were just high, but I think there was much more going on. Apparently Im not alone as many Dr's and nurses were doing K since the 60s b4 the Kat got let out of the bag.. Shit, it used to be an anestetic in vietnam but soilders were having such intense out of body exp. they thought they were dead. I guess every brand of K differs in tha % of R and S isomer. Ketaset was the best in my exp.. Then Ive had the pre-pharm bulk K that seems much weaker and I remember needing to snort a whole g to reach k whole..but I did have one of the most vivid trips of my life and still recall it vividly after 10yrs. Ive even had K that I was told had to be eaten. I trusted the guy getting it so I did.. It was a slower onset and more linear high. I really enjoyed it. I think I ate 1/2 a gram and kinda was in a k whole during the peak. Id love to hear from anybody who has encountered this and knows what exactly it was? But 75-120mg IMed seemed to produce a very blissful, psychedelic journey that rivals any trip Ive experienced including DMT... Sometimes I feel so connected to certain ppl in my life that its like deja vu and I wonder if Im crazy or really seeing another plane of existence..... But doing small bumps just to get a little woozy is a total waste of a drug and stupid IMO... That aint what K is about for me and other serious explorers of our consciousness. Maybe its fun to dance on after a lil bump but there is so much more to be seen. Doing more than 100mgIV or 150mg IM also is a waste since your basicly uncouncious.. Those doses are for somebody with a tollerance.. always start way low...check erowid for dose info.
Haha. Idk bro. That's sounds like crackin myself over tha head with a hammer. Iv or iM anyway. Thts what I would need to snort to get out there. K tollerance sucks. It never goes away. Even yrs later I still have a tollerance.