Kent State - Let's Remember

Discussion in 'Flashbacks' started by Ddoright, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Pretty much every generation has students that think they are young radicals...with che on their wall etc. Rich or poor. Just google "student protest" and you will see plenty from history and today.

    http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&um=1&q=student protest&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

    It almost seems a rite of passage.

    I know those people were not old, they were just bystanders, which was the point. They died because the police did something they shouldn't.
     
  2. Hippie McRaver

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    this is ignorant, while it is true some people have the bill sent to there parents, others like myself pay it themselves, and yes, after we recieve our college degrees we gain mastery in our field and go on to be psychologist, lawyers, diplomats, politicians, etc.

    Ungrateful? more like earned it. See you on the other side of the railroad tracks.
     
  3. Hippie McRaver

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  4. Living Corpse

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    yeah, i WILL be seeing you on the other side of the railroad tracks...when im beating the crap out of your commie skull, while fitted with riot gear armor.
     
  5. Hippie McRaver

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    are you a law enforcement official?

    also, mature.
     
  6. Ddoright

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    Let's forgive those who try to blame the victims - they have no understanding.
    Thank you OBW for this list.


    Here’s a list of those killed and wounded at Kent State.

    Killed (and approximate distance from the National Guard):
    Jeffrey Glen Miller 265 ft (81 m) shot through the mouth - killed instantly
    Allison Krause 343 ft (105 m) fatal left chest wound
    William Knox Schroeder 382 ft (116 m) fatal chest wound
    Sandra Lee Scheuer 390 ft (120 m) fatal neck wound

    (Two of the four students killed, Allison Krause and Jeffrey Miller, had participated in the protest, and the other two, Sandra Scheuer and William Knox Schroeder, had been walking from one class to the next at the time of their deaths. Schroeder was also a member of the campus ROTC chapter.)

    Wounded (and approximate distance from the National Guard):
    Joseph Lewis Jr. 71 ft (22 m); hit twice in the right abdomen and left lower leg
    John R. Cleary 110 ft (34 m); upper left chest wound
    Thomas Mark Grace 225 ft (69 m); struck in left ankle
    Alan Canfora 225 ft (69 m); hit in his right wrist
    Dean Kahler 300 ft (91 m); back wound fracturing the vertebrae - permanently paralyzed from the chest down
    Douglas A. Wrentmore 329 ft (100 m); hit in his right knee
    James Dennis Russell 375 ft (114 m); hit in his right thigh from a bullet and in the right forehead by birdshot - both wounds minor {died 2007}
    Robert F. Stamps 495 ft (151 m); hit in his right buttock {died June 11, 2008
     
  7. Living Corpse

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    Nah, im just trolling for the sake of trolling.

    I don't mean any of it. haha
     
  8. Ddoright

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    Jeffrey Miller

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    My prayers go out to the families and friends of those who were killed as well as the members of the national guard.
     
  11. odon

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    Probably not the best thread to be doing that...:rolleyes:
     
  12. jamesrock

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    :iagree:
     
  13. Living Corpse

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    Thats the heart of trolling, stomping on the tender spots of grass.
     
  14. odon

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    I don't think there is a handbook for trolls. If being insensitive is in your handbook, fair enough...I don't want to get too sanctimonious.
     
  15. Ddoright

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    Sandy Scheuer

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    William Knox Schroeder
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  17. Hippie McRaver

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  18. Ddoright

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    I heard that McRaver - All these years no one would admit there was an order to fire on the students - that it just happened - and finally the truth comes out - they were ordered to fire. Still - no one will ever be held responsible.

    Funny - it coming out just before the anniversary.

    Thanks again.


     
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    i have never heard the term "point" used as a command in the military before.it does not discredit what might be heard on the tape however.one of my first thoughts upon hearing the news and all these years has been what in the world were these national guardsman doing with live ammo in their weapons?at that time the national guard units were not the seasoned soldiers of today's army.it was a frightening situation for them but clearly the situation called for some restraint.that some of the soldiers shot into the ground or into the air to me shows an order to fire may have been given by an inexperienced officer who panicked.
     
  20. Ddoright

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    That is a point well taken - It has concerned me ever since the incident - why in God's name would those guardsmen have been given live ammo? Bayonets - maybe, batons - certainly, shields - not not live rounds. What was somethinking - it is indeed criminal.

     
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