No but I know of it, I will read it soon. Right now I'm reading "the fabric of the cosmos", cosmology/quantum mechanics
well i wish i could have spent more time responding but there are 7 pages of replies since i last got on here. :O so these brief responses will have to do. when was i saying that karma was not divine? i am saying that there are certain reactions to events which will not only cause one to repeat those cycles but also spiral downwards. it isn't up to our interpretation, or whether we believe or not. there is a cosmic standard that we are all held against. granted thinking negatively doesn't help. part of what karma is about is teaching us how to deal with negative energy. we must be a glistening beam of light in a sea of darkness. word. but we can understand it. just because we are bound to it does not mean we cannot master it. this is the principle behind everything that one might learn. how can one master something without experiencing it, and lifting themselves out of it. perfection is a far off goal, but it is possible. well it doesn't exactly happen like that. expressing the godhead will bring you good karma, but you will also be tested. you may lose everything, and you must remain vigilent. it is a test of faith. yes, and it is possible. reflecting ourselves onto the world is realising the life of the highest expression. divinity requires manifestation. yes, and the free will of our conscious is determines by our place in the karmic cycles. progessing through archetypal struggles. it is similar because the human codes of conduct are based on it. somewhere along the line some incredible being managed to have enough of an influence to bring across this divine influence, and over time it became more and more distorted by 'non-enlightened' beings. we take the divine and express it to the fullest extent of our ability, being inherently imperfect we come up short. but perfection is there, it is just extremely rare that it is achieved in this reality. thinking that it is impossible sure doesn't help its not this black and white. nothing is. you are all forgetting that just because a certain few individuals fall away from the truth and try to pass it off as truth that does not mean that the truth is not attainable! what we seek is very real, it is very illuding, and it is very wrathful.
But since you are divinity, how could you ever be distant from it? Muslims know what's up here, they say Allah is closer to you than your own jugular vein. To think that you could, by any action or thought or circumstance, move even an inch from the divine is sheer arrogance. You are that. Divinity is not some field or value which varies with time, and is measurable on some scale. Mussolini's taint is as sacred as the Baghavad Gita, the only difference between the two is I am more interested in examining the latter, but this is just my own quirky ego and it's preferences, like chocolate > strawberry. And even this ego is completely and totally divine. Spiral downwards in what? There is nowhere to go, you are not of "thing"ness to be moving willy nilly in some gameboard of cosmic "success". what cosmic standard? point it out for me please. and who or what is doing the holding against of me to it. and most importantly, what is the "i" which is being held against this standard? ( neoluls) oh my goodness. and what is this sea of darkness that you speak of now? the "bad" field that permeates all? the portions of the universe which fail against the cosmic standard? such duality in your mind, you are still so far from seeing it. you are looking at a magnet and telling me that North is the place to be, we need to be shining beacons of North in a dark sea of South. a horrible artifact of your western upbringing. you were taught as a child that if you grow up, behave, work responsibly in society, be good, maybe start a family, become successfull and popular and rich, then maybe, maybe, you will attain some measure of 'perfection'. What a shame that you have not been told from the first day that you were born perfect, and cannot be anything but what the entire cosmos in its infinite potential is culminating with in ever single moment of your life spent chasing after that which you already are. You have two versions of karma which you whip out depending on what angle the discussion takes. One version is the simplistic "you get what you earn", and the other is a very judaeo-christian smelling "you sometimes get what you earn but othertimes god is lulz". Translated into more honest language, this becomes "sometimes you get what you want and sometimes you don't". Odd, this sounds exactly like the reality that I know of as well! Yet, I have not required the existence of an entity called "karma" for this to be so. Why do you need "karma" to exist in order for "sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt" to be true? How can you not see the redundancy of this castle in the sky you have constructed like a religion and believed in? divinity does not x anything. it is not a "thing". you speak of it like a goldfish that i must feed, lest it die. how could you ever kill divinity? you could never even insult it. Really? I have independently concluded the "golden rule", many (most? all?) of my insights (psychedelic or not) are things which you attribute to "rare incredible beings", and if you take a gander at a few positive erowid trip reports, you'll see a lot of those regular joes trippin' on shroomz with their brahs are realizing very fundamental and simple behavioural truths, like "i should act the way i would want myself to act if i was god", and still, i see no smoke to the fire of karma that you say we are awash in. Desos. You need to zoom out. See that you are listening to your mind arising with these neat notions and interesting systems of belief, and that it is nothing more than mind bubbling up thoughts like any other thing that has entered your inner world and has been entertained by your awareness to various degrees of certainty and importance. Go around that one who is chattering to you about "karmic cycles" and just see.
Interestingly enough, this particular expression of the cry of humanity has always been my favorite aspect of the West. This western congregation of ambition! What can't we accomplish when we believe ourselves to be imperfect and are filled with the desire for something more! Come brothers, we must fight, breathe, create, invent, destroy, rebuild, live, die, sing, we must reach the heavens themselves! The bitter-sweet victory of the enlightened idiots of the West, always braving the darkest storming seas on black wings and manifesting some of the greatest potentials of our species, only to find that the grass is never greener on the other side. So close, but yet so far... The ability without the knowledge. And the West becomes a breeding ground for sorrow, my favorite emotion. What a great place to be. The lamenting imperfection of the West sends shivers down my spine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2XBIKviOBk&feature=related
its all a class system and hollywood is at the top, hollywood is even higher than the govt....Nobody listens to the govt, most are obsessed with movies..I know actors better than i know the people who create laws...The govt is like the high school student body councilmen shit, only the people who were a part of it fully understand it...the easiest part to remember is the president and vice president, only because of the power possesed....And vice president i see as lingo for presidents bitch...Dick Cheny is a example of a person who said fuck the president, got angry, went hunting, shot the president. lol
well i'm not saying that you just leave reality. everything is within the divine's sphere of influence. but we are fractioned portions of the divine. even though we inherently are divine, that does not mean we are realising life to the fullest expression. when you become distant it is because you are not realising reality to the highest expression. karma, being the enzyme that it is, counteracts the lower expressions, and brings them into balance. spiral into lower expressions. like when you drop a rock it falls to the ground. it doesn't matter if you believe in gravity or not, because it believes in you. it will make you fall and hurt yourself, regardless of whether you believe in it. well i mean to achieve perfection by reflection of yourself through the divine and living that. i don't believe that a person would be leading a life of perfection should they lead an immoral, selfish, and narcissistic life. no, the divine does not see these lower vibrations. we constantly seperate ourselves from our home, our sense of peace, in order to experience that distinct other-ness only so that we may return home again and know it for what it truly is. home. this is the natural order of things. we are currently in the fragmented stage. to accept the fragmentation as perfect divinity can only give us a false sense of security. we may experience reality to the fullest expression, should we so chose. haha. good. that is exactly what i am saying. how could one ever truly love if it could not be lost? there are many different views of the same things. many perceptions may become jaded with confusion. but many are also pristine reflections of truth. i don't think anyone is ever really in a position to say whether another person's view is the truth or not, so all we can really do is speculate. but when we stand before god the speculation ceases to exist, and only all-encompassing light pervades. whether we let this light through is a matter of circumstance.
I don't believe in karma exactly, i don't not believe either. Karma is a rule that should be real, it would put life in alot more of a fair balance system, karma already works to an extent, considering your good and bad actions will affect other beings conscousness' and reflect that by itself, so it just ultimately seems like nature has a way of working itself out naturally and that is as good as karma gets.
