Kanye West and Slavery (!).

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Jimbee68, Oct 13, 2018.

  1. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    They're just as worthless as ever. This stupid political status quo and polarized society serves them and they seem to embrace that situation.
    I agree with you though in your response to PR that a welfare state (which can exist in many different forms) or a system with strong socialist tendencies does not simply equals a deliberately impoverished (majority of) society. In fact that is clearly nonsense.
     
  2. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member HipForums Supporter

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    You may not know this, but to the annoyance of many young voters the Democratic party has typically ushered in more moderate candidates.
     
  3. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Doesn't change my opinion on them. They won't change the status quo or your country's two party system. No solid change in the long run. Fuck either of the 2 big american parties or be prepared for an endless ongoing of the same shit. You don't need the Democrat party to change your country's politics and society progressively. In fact, liberals or progressives NEED to drop them collectively in order to get real progressive and constructive change.
     
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  4. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Slavery is more than just a system of working without pay, it is a state of mind as well.

    In some ways I agree that it's perfectly reasonable to compare impoverished welfare recipients to slaves of the government and the democrat party.

    When someone grows dependent on a provider, they develop a limitation mindset where they create barriers to their own potential success and escaping into self reliance. Welfare recipients depend on the state, and slaves even grew dependent on their masters. Here are some confessions from actual former slaves in the United States:

    Andrew Goodman, interviewed at the age of 97: “I was born in slavery and I think them days was better for the niggers than the days we see now. One thing was, I never was cold and hungry when my old master lived, and I has been plenty hungry and cold a lot of times since he is gone. But sometimes I think Marse Goodman was the bestest man God made in a long time. The slaves cried when told we were free ‘cause they don’t know where to go, and they’s always ‘pend on old Marse to look after them.”

    Henri Necaise of Mississippi: “To tell de truth, de fact of de business is, my marster took care of me better’n I can take care of myself now. When us was slaves Marster tell us what to do. He say, ‘Henri, do dis, do dat. And us done it. Den us didn’t have to think where de next meal comin’ from, or de next pair of shoes or pants. De grub and clothes give us was better’n I ever gets now.”


    Ezra Adams: “De slaves on our plantation didn’t stop workin’ for old marster even when dey was told dat dey was free. Us didn’t want no more freedom than us was gittin’ on our planation already. Us knowed too well dat us was well took care of, wid plenty of vittles to eat and tight log and board houses to live in. De slaves, where I lived, knowed after de war dat they had abundance of dat something called freedom, what they could not eat, wear and sleep in. Yes, sir, they soon found out dat freedom ain’t nothin’ ‘less you got somethin’ to live on and a place to call home. Dis living’ on liberty is lak young folks livin’ on love after they gits married. It just don’t work.”

    American Greatness: LBJ's Democratic plantation - Dinesh D'Souza

    It's quite astonishing that some actually preferred the life of slavery to a life of freedom. But at the same time, there's some who prefer to live on the system rather than going to work toward a more fulfilling and enriching livelihood.
     
  5. Okiefreak

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    What bullshit! The myth of the "happy darky" was invented to rationalize a system of human exploitation, Frederick Douglass’s “Narrative:” Myth of the Happy Slave just as the myth that Republicans want to "liberate" African-Americans from the big, bad Demos is the new talking point of Trump and the Republicans. And there will always be African-Americans like Kanye who will collaborate in trying to give it credibility and propagandists who will dutifully spread the lie via prevailing means of communication. In case anybody missed it, this is one of the latest talking points assiduously spread by the right wing propaganda machine including Fox and the bot/troll army.The real party of civil rights
    https://www.politicususa.com/2016/0...rican-support-giving-worst-pitch-history.html
    The Conservative Fantasy History of Civil Rights
    Those who remember or read about Nixon's "Southern Strategy" or the Southernization of the Republican Party during the "70s , or who followed Trump's "birther" campaign under Obama know who the real racists are. Republicans and Libertarian Social Darwinists want to "liberate'"African-Americans and everybody else from welfare (except, of course, from unemployment benefits for certain white millenial males) so they can all get jobs and become rich--or starve. "Give 'em a hand up instead of a hand out"--except I don't recall any proposals for the "hand up"--just a kick in the teeth and attempts to disenfrachise them by voter suppression laws. Jack Kemp was the last Republican to make a sincere effort to help African-Americans, but he died in the early 90s.
    Trump and the Black Vote - FactCheck.org
    Were Republicans really the party of civil rights in the 1960s? | Harry J Enten
    FACT CHECK: Trump Fudges History on Black Vote, Drug Cost
     
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  6. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member HipForums Supporter

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    Also...
    :confounded::dizzy: Is this relevant? I don't know whether or not to post it but there... it's posted.
     

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