Just My "crazy" Views

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Pressed_Rat, Mar 6, 2017.

  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    I believe that nothing in this world which happens on any grand scale is by mere chance.

    I believe that Trump is where he is not because he was elected, but selected by a small few. Sure there is REAL discontent in this country, and therefore REAL support for people like Trump, who appear to speak truth to a segment of the disillusioned public. But the fact is Trump would not be where he is unless very powerful people wanted him there.

    He is where he is to create chaos. Chaos that will be blamed on many of the things he claims to stand for.

    The popular belief is that the media and interlocking establishment is against Trump, but that is merely the script because Trump is "anti-establishment" (or so they would like people to think). That is Trump's role in the game. He is there to say divisive and inflammatory things, only to have the other side come forward in opposition. Everything is designed to get people taking sides, because divide = conquer.

    I see Trump as nothing more than an actor fulfilling a role. I don't believe the guy believes a modicum of what he says. I believe he is told what to say to cause controversy and outrage, and the other side reacts in opposition as it is supposed to according to the Hegelian dialectic.

    So here we have Trump taking office around the same time this whole Brexit thing is going down in the UK and Teresa May is Prime Minister. I believe this is by complete design. I can almost GUARANTEE YOU that Marine Le Pen will win the upcoming election in France. MARK MY WORD!!!

    There will soon be a huge global currency crash which will be blamed on the tenants of conservative government that people like Trump, May and Le Pen claim to stand for. This will be used to usher in the "solution" of an authoritarian, technocratic, socialistic one world government where we must all come together and unite as one in order to defeat the scourge of "racist" nationalism.
     
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  2. GLENGLEN

    GLENGLEN Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    I Didn't Realise That The Conspiracy Forum Was Broken...... :unsure:



    Cheers Glen.
     
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  3. Ged

    Ged One moment ago... HipForums Supporter

    I'd be surprised if Le Pen gets in. It would literally be unreal .Anyway, I hope not.
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    It is going to happen.
     
  5. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

    someone seems to be getting their impression of popular belief from faux news. people ARE gullible though.
    he's there for what he can walk away with. he doesn't likely care that he's creating chaos, though i'm sure he thinks its amusing.
    his wealth, what he actually has of it, comes from after the fact laundering money for shady russian wheelers and dealers,
    who skate close to the edge of their own country's laws, some at the highest levels of their government, where they can get away with it,
    just as he fancies himself doing. how much he will get away with for how long is uncertain. hopefully not long enough to put us all in forced labour camps,
    and human euthinasia. our constitution is a means, not a guarantee. and he is doing as much as he can, as fast as he can, to break it.
    which is neither as easy as some fear, nor as difficult as some would like us to take for granted.

    none of this is any longer speculation. i won't rest easy until he has been impeached, and considering pence, probably not then.
    but then i was born paranoid and raised that way, so take that as one will. but a lot of people, who might otherwise have remained complacent,
    have been goaded by his crudeness and apparent lack of self control, into resisting in whatever way they find themselves able.

    i don't believe even a majority of his own supporters still believe his schtick.
    the corporate media was asleep on the job, that's how he got as far as he did, but even they can't pretend any more, he's made it impossibly himself for them to do so.

    and he's also offended the very people with the most experience and capacity, for making 'accidents' happen.

    and if he so much as touches the v.a., there are a lot of retired marines, who swore to uphold the constitution and the "lawful" orders of the president.
    didn't say anything about orders that are clearly and unambiguously UNLAWFUL.

    not saying they'll be pushing each other out of the way to get a clear shot.
     
  6. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Check

    The USA is so polarized its sick.


    Check, A lifetime NYC Democrat and classical liberal.


    Personally, this is far more worrisome than oceans rising.
     
  7. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

    yes he's putting predators in charge of every hen house. not, i don't believe, to spread chaos gratuitously, but because he sees any regulation against letting little green pieces of paper get away with murder, as inconvenient to wanting to see himself as godfather of the world.

    its not the little green pieces of paper that are unhappy, and rising seas, just mean world class coastal and low lying cities will have to move further inland. but rising seas aren't the eco-pocalypse, just part of the process of bringing it about. diseases mutating more rapidly then names can be invented for them are the ultimate fate of human kind, compounded by malnutrition resulting from the inundation of low lying croplands, which also then compound the problem by also becoming breeding grounds for the multiplying and proliferation of disease vectors. rising seas and rising annual temperatures, are merely part and parcel to the process.

    but letting little green pieces of paper, get away with murder, is never going to re-employ, obsoleted skills, nor bring home corporate interest, from parts of the world, where they can get away with virtual, or even literal, slave labor. and i kind of have my doubts about punitive tariffs doing so either, even supposing he could get congress to implement them.
     
  8. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    Trump has bosses he answers to. It's not that he wants to create chaos, but rather the people who put him in power. And I don't mean the people that voted for him.
     
  9. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

    The Nazis?
     
  10. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Waddayagonnado Staff Member Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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  11. NoHobo

    NoHobo Member

    1) I believe that nothing in this world which happens on any grand scale is by mere chance.

    Not much a believer in evolution either then, are you?

    2) But the fact is Trump would not be where he is unless very powerful people wanted him there.

    In a sense, yes, because not anyone can win the Republican nomination, or even compete for it. Otherwise though, Trump is there because he won the electoral college. You don't need a conspiracy when you can achieve things through the proper channels.

    3) He is where he is to create chaos. Chaos that will be blamed on many of the things he claims to stand for.

    He will stir shit up, but chaos is a strong word. Nothing that Trump has done so far has been near chaotic. Some of it has been somewhat controversial, but nowhere close to "chaos".

    4) The popular belief is that the media and interlocking establishment is against Trump, but that is merely the script because Trump is "anti-establishment" (or so they would like people to think). That is Trump's role in the game. He is there to say divisive and inflammatory things, only to have the other side come forward in opposition. Everything is designed to get people taking sides, because divide = conquer.

    The argument that the media is somehow colluding with "powers at be" or whatever is retarded. The media is formed of many diverse independent companies. More than that, the media's agenda (to make $$$) is not the same as the agenda of government (or, in your case, the NWO)... which is to rule. Money may be a means to power, but it's only one of piece of the puzzle. Therefore, the media is not involved in any charade.

    5) I see Trump as nothing more than an actor fulfilling a role. I don't believe the guy believes a modicum of what he says. I believe he is told what to say to cause controversy and outrage, and the other side reacts in opposition as it is supposed to according to the Hegelian dialectic.

    Presidents are the representatives of their party and their electorate, and therefore, play a role by default. The public image of any president is just that, an image. Trump may be a slightly exaggerated example, but he's no different.

    6) So here we have Trump taking office around the same time this whole Brexit thing is going down in the UK and Teresa May is Prime Minister. I believe this is by complete design. I can almost GUARANTEE YOU that Marine Le Pen will win the upcoming election in France. MARK MY WORD!!!

    Yet again, this doesn't really have anything to do with design. Brexit and Trump's victory both happened due to very clear socio-economic factors that a well-informed teenager could explain to you by this point. Le Pen could potentially win, due to these same factors, especially now that Fillon is all but out... but I wouldn't guarantee it. Still, her victory would not surprise me, and it has nothing to do with any pre-arranged conspiracy.

    7) There will soon be a huge global currency crash which will be blamed on the tenants of conservative government that people like Trump, May and Le Pen claim to stand for. This will be used to usher in the "solution" of an authoritarian, technocratic, socialistic one world government where we must all come together and unite as one in order to defeat the scourge of "racist" nationalism.

    There are absolutely no indicators of a global currency crash, at least no time "soon". If anything, at least the U.S. is preparing for relative prosperity with Trump's opening up of business and deregulation. Stock markets hit all time highs the other day.

    Also, the way things are going, we're drifting further away from a "world government" than closer to it. Entities such as the European Union, the closest thing the world has ever had to a "world government" are collapsing. If anything, we're heading in the absolutely opposite direction, with more independent governance and more isolationism.

    In conclusion, you are not only wrong, but very wrong. Now that I have emancipated you from your own delusions, you can thank me with a 6 pack of good beer.
     
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  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    Yes, things appear to be temporarily moving away from globalism. But that is only until there is a global economic collapse which will be blamed on things like Brexit, nationalism, protectionism, etc. Then things will continue moving full-steam ahead with an even greater force than ever before.

    Also, the stock market does not mean shit. The real issue the media does not talk about is the devaluation of the currency and rampant debt. That is what will cause the collapse. It will be a currency crisis.

    Also, Trump does not have shit to do with the stock market. It has more to do with the markets being flooded with fiat currency constantly being printed up by the Fed. As the stock market soars, the value of the dollar drops. Trump merely inherited the current stock market, he did not create it.
     
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  13. NoHobo

    NoHobo Member

    1) There is absolutely no evidence of this. This is boarderline idiotic and sounds like some kind of doomsday prediction a psychopath would make.
    2) Currency devaluation and rampant debt have been happening for years, and nothing has collapsed. Is another billion in U.S. debt to China or something like that supposed to suddenly cause it all to collapse? That's silly.
    3) Trump's policies have a lot to do with the stock market. The stock market rises when investors see a potential for profit. That has nothing to do with markets being flooded with flat currency. The U.S. inflation rate is only at 2.5%, which is high, but not that high at all in global terms.

    It's a shame that I was not able to convert you away from the crap you brainwashed yourself with. I was hoping I could. I guess I'd have to buy myself that 6 pack.
     
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  14. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

    PR, have you ever considered how much your ideas echo fundamental evangelical Christian eschatology?
    Where the hell do you think you got that ingrained fear of a global government, one global monetary system, etc,etc.

    Never had you pegged for an "end times" Christian, but if it walks like a duck.......
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    LOL!

    You act like the people who run our world are good and decent people who want what's best for humanity.
     
  16. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

    I'm drinking a steel reserve right now.
     
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  17. Meliai

    Meliai Senior Member

    The main problem i have with conspiracy theories such as this one is the absolute faith that humans are capable of organizing and working together so well for the "greater" good (in this case, a one world government and economy). In truth people with power are usually only looking out for themselves and what makes them money in the short term - and I would venture to say the most profitable and beneficial system to the already wealthy and powerful would be unbridled capitalism complete with massive deregulation.

    My own personal conspiracy theory (this only applies to America workers thus far, i havent worked out the beat of the rest of the world yet) is that corporations will force America workers to compete with low skilled, low wage third world workers until we're willing to accept third world wages. They'll do this of course by deregulation and removing existing workers' rights and by cutting education to the point where the majority of people wont have any other options besides seeking out a low skilled, low paying job.
     
  18. Meliai

    Meliai Senior Member

    I love a man with sophisticated taste in beer
     
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  19. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

    I can do an extensive review on it, just for you ;)
     
  20. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

    If it walks like a duck...

    ????

    What's the ending to this one? :)

    Is it a duck? ? =p >.>
     

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