John Kerry

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bonky, May 10, 2004.

  1. Bonky

    Bonky Member

    What do you think of him? I like the man...
  2. beachbum7

    beachbum7 Lookin' for any fun

    John Kerry... well, I'm not a fan of the man. I hope he won't be as bad as Bush (if elected), but I have a lot of questions about him. I really don't know where he stands on a lot of issues - Actually, he seems to be like Bush in some ways.
  3. Senator Kerry and Jane Fonda stood in front of American Soldiers being tortured by Cuban professional torture specialist in Hanoi, N. Viet Nam and blamed the soldiers for their situation.

    Senator Kerry knows more about war than almost any other Senator in congress and yet voted to fully endorse the war with Iraq without any stipulations. He could have shown leadership and demanded we have a coalition involving France and Germany, he did not.

    He will accomplish nothing if elected because Congress will have a majority of Republicans. As far as that goes neither party will get anything done for the reason the parties hate each other’s guts.

  4. booshnoogs

    booshnoogs loves you

    I don't like Kerry as much as I don't like Bush, although for some different reasons. I do kind of like the idea of a Democrat in the White House though as long as congress is mostly Republican. Having differing parties tends to lead to a less activist government.

    As far as the man himself, I find him to be a spineless tool.
  5. HappyHaHaGirl

    HappyHaHaGirl *HipForums Princess*

    I like him more that Bush, but still not very much. I'd like to vote for Nader, but that would break the Dem vote and Bush will win again, so I'm stuck voting for someone I don't like just to get someone else I don't like out of office. I guess I liked Wesley Clark, but he's gone. :(
  6. LuciferSam

    LuciferSam Member

    I'm not the biggest Kerry fan... but I'd vote for a sock puppet if it would oust the Bush administration. Kerry does flip-flop alot on issues, wish he'd be clearer. His record of being anti-war back in the Vietnam days doesn't bother me, in fact I think it's a plus. Wish he still had the balls to be as outspoken nowadays.
  7. HappyHaHaGirl

    HappyHaHaGirl *HipForums Princess*

    I went to the Main St. Festival in Franklin and the Republicans had a booth set up and were selling John Kerry flip flops.... :) I would have bought some, and I probably should have, but I didn't want the Republicans to have any of my money.
  8. I don’t understand why the democrats divorced the Vermont guy in Iowa? I think he would bring some balance and he didn’t have a pro war stance.

    I spent 20 years in the Army and I’m against war! The point I always make is that governments go to war and soldiers fight them, on both sides. Once a country and the other country Iraq, agrees to go to war it must be fought to win decisively or all the soldiers on both sides die and are wounded for nothing. Maybe if the draft were still around you would better understand? Two countries, you and their soldiers caught between the two governments stance. Sadam could have avoided the war and the American people would not have let the government go to war if he had only held out two open empty hands. He was holding one behind his back giving the UN and America the finger and holding, well we still don’t know?

    Imagine the situation at the gas pumps if Sadam had all the stuff and took over the entire regions oil resources. You couldn’t nuke’em if you want to fill up. You would just pay his price and make him more powerful.

  9. hip-ster

    hip-ster Member

    The U.S. installed Saddam in the 80s to protect oil fields of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia from the radicals in Iran and elsewhere. He turned out to be the problem instead of the solution.
  10. Well stated!

    Like all things done by the government, if not closely monitored they turn to shit.

    Islamic people did not put the lines on the map of the Iraq region. The thinking of the church crosses borders.

    The church runs the entire area and Sadam was an exception, which wasn't managed by the installing authority. Maybe that is why he was so feared by his ability to quickly change the lines on a new map.
  11. LuciferSam

    LuciferSam Member

    Howard Dean apparently didn't jive well with the Democrat establishment, and they were afraid he was too extreme to compete against Bush - they chose the lowest common denominator, Kerry. Too bad, I was a Dean guy myself. At least Dean left his memorable primal "YEEEeeeaaARGH" cry as his legacy. Seriously I love that cry, I'm only half-mocking it. We should all cry YEEEeeeaaARGH at the Democrat conventions!
  12. hip-ster

    hip-ster Member

    Pretty much what Lucifer said. Dean was not establishment enough. He was more of a maverick like McCain or Perot. The establishment doesn't like such figures. That's why they lock them out of the debates and stifle them as much as possible.
  13. hip-ster

    hip-ster Member

    Saddam didn't turn to shit. He was shit right from the start. That's why the U.S. installed him. The guy committed his first assassination when he was 20 and was involved with death his whole life.

    Also, Saddam was the one who invaded Iran, not the other way around.
  14. MushroomDreams

    MushroomDreams Senior Member

    In Bush’s next term he will appoint a few Supreme Court Justices. Some real nasty crackers that make Scalea look like an ACLU member.
    He’s got to be stopped! :eek:
  15. Chongo Blanco

    Chongo Blanco Banned

    The U.S. did help Hussein in the early 80's and he did exactly what we wanted him to. He distracted Iran and gave them enough of a problem to keep the all that shit where it belongs, the shithole of the world.
  16. Megara

    Megara Banned

    dean is scary....

    he actually made a comment while he was governor of vermont saying anyone arrested was *GUILTY* and that public defenders didnt need a raise to protect guilty people....i dont want someone who doesnt understand the very basic concept of our judicial system: innocent until proven guilty.

    Plus he has a temper problem and he says a lot of stupid stuff and has to do a lot of damage control.
  17. zaila

    zaila Member

    I completely agree.
  18. DarkLunacy

    DarkLunacy Senior Member

    I think Kerry is a good guy but I don't understand why he backtracked about throwing his ribbons/medals/whatever. Vietnam was terrible. Ask the Vets. I dont understand why he would be ashamed of disagreeing with that. He went, he served, he got back and voiced his regret. Hes smarter than Bush in any case and we'd be much better with him in office in MHO
  19. Jozak

    Jozak Member

    Are you really that historcially inept or do you take everyone on here to be a fool?. Saddam came to absolute power in 1979 but was already holding high ranking political offices in the late 1960's. Get your facts straight, the U.S. never installed him, and I challenge you to prove they did so.
  20. John Kerry is a traitor plain and simple.

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