Oh man... Do we have to go through all this crap again? I get so sick of it. "Given the existance of a personal God with a white beard who, from the heights, loves us all dearly (with some exeptions), and suffers; and considering it is established beyond all doubt that the labours of man[kind] are unfinished and that, in spite of the strides, man[kind] wates and pines, wastes and pines..." This argument will never be resolved. If Christianity still exists as a major faith a thousand years for now, those poor Christians will still have themselves convinced that the second comming is just around the corner and some all-powerful kind old white guy will come and save them from... what... themselves? Long after the rest of us have advanced to a level of spirituality in which we rejoyce in the sacred brief lives we have in this divine universe, the Christians will still be waiting...
Could you answer a question for me? In Turkey their is a mountain called Mt. Ararat. It is the same mountain that for years people have been reporting that their appears to be a large man made object in the ice at about the 16,000 foot level. Also what they have discovered on top of the mountain is pillar lava. Pillar lava can only form when it is underwater. How did pillar lava form on top of a mountain that is 17,000 feet tall? I will keep my bleach bottle in the basement.
Don't worry, the Bible states that the generation that sees the Jews return to Israel will not pass away until Christ returns. We will not have to wait for a thousand years. Many on this post I believe will see Him coming. I just pray that when He returns, He will be their Saviour and not their Judge. That will be their choice. Hope they make the right one. The East Gate of Jerusalem is sealed, as the Bible said it would be. Just before Christ comes for His church, a time of terrible war will come upon the earth.
Oh there's a prediction that will make everything clear LMFAO "a time of terrible war" - when is war not terrible? We have been in a time of terrible war for thousands of years and still no divine being has stepped in to save us (or anyone for that matter). By your logic, it has been "just before Christ comes" for nearly two thousand years. The East gate of Jerusalem will be blown to bits by some fanatical suicide bomber and still there will be no rapture (save possibly for the suicide bombers). Then what will you do? What new slice of the Bible will you choose to cling to in order to prove to yourself that your version of God is the correct one and everyone else is going to hell? Never mind... don't answer that PLEASE! I don't want to get involved in another one of these things again. If I do, I'll take it to the religion forums, where it belongs.
Well like Jesus said, they will hate Christians because they first hated me. The one man that can save you from your sin, you say is full of shit. The Bible said that at the time of the end the Jews would return to Israel, they would retake Jerusalem, and the Eastern Gate that leads to the temple mount would be sealed. The Bible states that it would not be opened until Christ returns and He alone will enter that gate. All of this is true, and this truth and much more can be found in the Bible. Yet Jesus was so right, the world hates the truth.
Well this war will be so terrible, that Jesus said if it were not for His coming man would destroy himself. He's not taking about some local or regional war. He is talking about a war that would end all life on this planet. Which means the God of the bible knew just how terrible the wepons of war would become. That statement was written 2,000 years ago, and yet it appears God know are future even then.
If the East Gate is broken through and Jesus is not there.... I promise you I will stop believing the Bible.... But the prophecies have never failed and they won't in the future either.
Well I can tell you something about God, He works wonders which defy the natural thinking. Consider the Red Sea crossing. When the Children of Israel crossed through the sea. Many do not believe that story either. Yet they are now finding ancient writings that are carved in stone which repeat the story found in the Bible. Divers are going down at the spot of the writings, and are discovering the remnants of Pharaohs army. Coral incrusted human and horse bones and chariot wheels. Some of the wheels still attached to the axils. This is based on truth that can be observed. The Bible said that God had prepared a special fish that was made just for Jonah, so I believe it was not an ordinary run of the mill whale. It's hard for me to talk about my expericens with God, because some of my stories seem so unbelievable, and yet I know they are true.
I am a powerhouse Engineer, their is no room in my kind of work for hallucinating. Everything I do is by the book, especially when you are running high pressure Boilers. I don't imagine anything. And what I tell you here is not fiction but the truth.
You guys call us out..... we present the evidence..... and now all there is is silence..... God is real and He has a plan for your life but He leaves it up to you. Sadly most do not accept his plan
You must be out of your fucking mind to believe that. You can go to the store right fucking now and buy SEVEN different bibles that all differ from each other. Which one matches the "original," Eliot? Which one? -Jeffrey
I'm on a highway to hell.......see ya there colenzo. I hear its warmer there. Here is a taste of what is to come........ Welcome To Hell One day a guy dies and finds himself in hell. As he is wallowing in his sel- pity, In deep despair, trying to fathom an eternity of extreme torture, he has his first meeting with the devil. Devil: You’re new! Feel at home, I like all the new residents to be settled. Hmmm, Why so glum, chum? Guy: What do you think? I screwed up, I was bad even though I knew better, so now... I'm in hell. Devil: Hey, Hell's not so bad. We actually have a lot of fun down here. Are you a drinkin' man? Guy: Sure, I drink quite a bit, with the guys after work, nights out, watching football games, anytime. Devil: Well you’ll love Mondays. On Mondays all we do is drink. Rum, Whiskey, Vodka, Tequila, Gin, wine, beer, highballs, you name it. We drink till we puke, then we drink some more. Guy: Gee, that sounds great. Let’s see, that’s only four days away. I can’t wait. Devil: You a smoker? If you are...have I got a treat for you. Guy: You better believe it. All my life, two packs a day, no filters, and cigars, too. Devil: Alright! You'll love Tuesdays. We get the best cigars from around the world, even Cubans, and smoke our lungs out. If you get cancer, no biggie - you're already dead, remember? Guy: Wow. That's awesome. I love those Cuban cigars, kinda hard to get back home. Devil: You look like a man who likes to gamble. And not too bad at it either, am I right? G uy: Why yes, as a matter of fact I do, and well, some say I play a mean blackjjack game. Devil: Well... Wednesday you can bet all you want. Craps, Blackjack, Roulette, Poker, Slots, whatever. And then, if you go bankrupt, well, you're dead anyhow. It’s the biggest casino on the other side. Devil: And, hey, we can speak freely here, honestly, are you into any drugs? Guy: Are you kidding? I love all the drugs. You don't mean.... Devil: Yep! Thursday's drug day. Help yourself to a great big bowl of crack or smack. Smoke a doobie the size of a submarine. You can do all the drugs you want and if ya overdose - that's alright - you're dead, who cares? O.D.!! Guy: Yowza!! I never realized Hell was such a swingin' place. Devil: You gay? Guy: No.... Devil: Ooooh (grimaces), You're gonna hate Fridays . . .
Im not saying some of the stories are not true. I did not once say that. I said they have been exaggerated over centuries and centuries passed down from word to mouth, and translated in how many different languages?? even the most strict catholics, who have taken years of theology, also agree. the bible was laid partly in fact, most of it is overexaggerated and we arent supposed to take the writings literally.