Jesus myth theories

Yeah, yeah, and the liberals are going to win in Ontario's up-comng election. I really believe it. And hinder all the salesman. So long; a trolling I will go.

 

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What Meagain is failing to grasp is that when put under the same scrutiny that the existence of Jesus gets put through, many characters from history whom we just accept their existence actually have as little or less actual "evidence" to support the claim of their existence.

Meagian also fails in his previous post regarding the Roman records and shit; history is written by the victors.

Buddhist also fail to understand that when they say that the Buddha was enlightened, that is a STATEMENT OF FAITH with NO "evidence" to support it.

so lets play a game and just for one minute assume the biblical story/account is correct, ya know Satan, God, good vs evil, the whole shmeer.
It does make sense that if this was a plan set in motion since before the beginning of time with an opponent actively seeking to destroy/undermine the grand plan, then coming up with a bunch of copy-cats and similar "persons" tends to have the effect we see illustrated in this thread; the real story is watered down and not taken seriously.
That is more or less the biblical stance/explanation of the many similar stories.
Also the entire "gospel story" as presented in the Bible actually pre-dates most of history so maybe those other religions/myths are the copy cats.
(check out "the Glory in The Stars", a book about the zodiac, intriguing read)


I would ask each person to ask themselves "what have I got against Christianity?" and don't cheat by answering "because of what so and so did/does", answer from the basis of how it relates to you and you alone and what connotations it has for you individually.

I find a lot of people at the core of their beliefs are in opposition to it because of the misconception that it is a "controlling" religious belief, which couldn't be further from the truth.

 

What I notice often is that those bashers are a lot of the time confusing the religion with the imperfect actions of some of it's followers.

 

exactly why I said "not because of what so and so did /didn't do"

what taken down to an absolutely personal level with no other influence/excuse/reasoning, most people think it means relinquishing control over their lives and that they can't "do what they want".

 

I agree with what you have said as far as you have taken it. I would add that whenever their is confusion about whether or not we are doing or are able to do what we want it means that you haven't decided what it is you want. Your experience is yours to do with what you want but the proportions of your life are set by your creatures habitation.

 

You mean the logos?

 

Some say Jesus was a mad man wandering the desert......so I do believe he existed.....have no proof, though....but sometimes I think it is like the telephone game...you say something, and it gets repeated.....and something has changed in inferrance and by the time it gets to the millionth person...it is totally different that what the original person said.....so alot of myth, I do think arises this way, also, and maybe at the time, people did need someone to worship. I have seen that in this day and age...people needing someone to worship, and turning regular people into gods.

 

I would say joseph smith was a sly man considering his political influence. Again what do you mean no proof of christ, the logos? It is there is your own mind.

 

We mythologize and sensationalize things we see but can find no substantial thing to point to to say that is it. It is ephemeral by virtue of the fact that the mind is naturally abstract and must find it's own interpretive meaning.

 

I said maybe.....
also...I know that my words have gotten twisted by the time it got to the third person over and over again, so I know that phenomenon exists, without a doubt.

 

and many times...the person to whom I speak to, misinterprets what i say as something totally different than what I mean, right off the bat....

 

Yet all those myths though different in particulars have areas of convergence and serve for common recognition. How do we find the the value of an unknown variable, we cross out all other variants.

 

have to be very direct, I guess, and maybe shout if we have to, as simply as possible....lol

 

In the case of jesus myth we can throw out as not informative the conflict of whether jesus existed as a person or not, two variants we can excuse to come to understanding.

 

oddly enough i have to agree with you there. the whole point of the story isn't some claim of historical accuracy, though i believe one or more analogous persons may very likely have lived.

 

I don't know how odd it is, I find those most agreeable whom I agree with. One thing we can discern is that more than one person was involved in the making of this picture.

 

You mean then jesus of nazareth a man. Christ means anointed authority. Jesus christ as messiah is an invocation of other men.