Jesus last words?

NaykidApe · Oct 29, 2005

nitemarehippygirl said:

can i also point out another discrepancy between the "eyewitnesses" at the cruxifiction.
the sign above jesus' head reads............

Mark: "The King of the Jews"
Luke: "This is the King of the Jews"
John: "Jesus of Nazerth, King of the Jews"
Matthew: "This is Jesus, The King of The Jews"
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this is due to cetain discrepancies in translation.

Scholars now agree that the actual sign read "Your Add Here".

nitemarehippygirl · Oct 29, 2005

NaykidApe said:

this is due to cetain discrepancies in translation.

Scholars now agree that the actual sign read "Your Add Here".
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interesting

perhaps one of those GoldenPalace.com ads.... i wouldn't be surprised if they've been around since the time of the Son of Man.

NaykidApe · Oct 29, 2005

nitemarehippygirl said:

interesting

perhaps one of those GoldenPalace.com ads.... i wouldn't be surprised if they've been around since the time of the Son of Man.
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Jesus died and spam came into the world.
If only we'd known.

ryupower · Oct 29, 2005

nitemarehippygirl said:

yes, i see what you mean; it's still a very weak argument, and kind of funny. the writers were staggered and got different messages? if that were so, wouldn't the list of what jesus said go from one recorder having all of it, the 2nd having all but one, the 3rd having all but 2.. you see what i mean? and in any case, imagine if you're standing there, listening to god die. he says something that you hear, then he says something else, that you don't hear... wouldn't you go over and say, "hey, whaddidhe say?" i for one wouldn't forget the fact that he said something i didn't hear, and just write down the last words i heard.

these are jesus' followers, GOD is getting killed here, surely they'd all record god's last words equally. also, as trippinbtm has pointed out, it is extremely doubtful that the gospel of john was written by john.

not only that, but i have to point out that it's commonly believed -by christians- that only two of the gospels were written by eye witnesses, not all of them. those are matthew and john. of course, john is now considered by scholars to definitely not be an eyewitness account. but mark is supposed to have been written by a disciple of peter, and luke is supposed to have been a friend of paul's. since scholars now generally agree that mark is the earlist gospel, this zilches the whole traditional system of who was there and who wrote the gospels. we don't actually know if any of the writers were there at all.

love,
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I'm not in to arguing.

I just wanted to give my answer

StonerBill · Oct 30, 2005

stop refuting what everyone has to say, you arguementitive antichrist!

MrRee · Oct 30, 2005

StonerBill said:

Gospel of Thomas....what StonerBill said .... it's the only book worth reading
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But it really hits home at aphorism 108, which I put into practice and, Lo-and-behold! my eyes were opened to truth and reality!! Changed my life ~
108 Jesus said, "Whosoever drinks from my mouth will become like me; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to that person."
Aint that the truth!
Don't feel like jesus, though.
Yet

guest1234 · Oct 30, 2005

ryupower said:

They are recorded, but only one of the gospels quotes them.

Than again, it could also depand on what the writers heard Him say.
Matthew could have stood further away than John, and Peter may have stood further away than Matthew, one only says He gave out a big yell, the other one said He yelled certain words.
See what I mean?
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The one who stood closest to Jesus wouldve heard them all. The 'they only recorded certain parts of what he said' arguement is just crap.

StonerBill · Oct 30, 2005

MrRee said:

But it really hits home at aphorism 108, which I put into practice and, Lo-and-behold! my eyes were opened to truth and reality!! Changed my life ~
108 Jesus said, "Whosoever drinks from my mouth will become like me; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to that person."
Aint that the truth!
Don't feel like jesus, though.
Yet
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if you would like to discuss this in the thread in philosophy religion forum id like to hear what you have to say about that verse

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