Jesus Christ

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Julio, Jan 17, 2009.

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  1. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Do the teachings of Jesus depend solely on his interpretation of revealed wisdom?

    Is anything ever discovered in religion or is it all revealed by a higher power?
     
  2. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    I guess for me the validity teachings of Jesus depend on how well they resonate with my values, experience, judgment, knowledge and reasoning. Above all, they pass the test of pragmatism. I use them in my daily life, and they seem to work for me--judged in terms of my own satisfaction with the results.
     
  3. def zeppelin

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    His wisdom is revealed to those that seek understanding of it.

    The validity of Jesus' teachings is not whether or not it resonates with my values but whether or not it resonates with reality. If by leading a life that is guided by his wisdom brings what he himself states it will bring then it will reaffirm the message for me.

    I'm not sure about other religions, but I think that in Christianity, all is revealed by God.
     
  4. OlderWaterBrother

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    Interestingly, when I stated the consequences of your philosophy, you've called it silly and infantile. Well, it seems you've described your philosophy better than I ever could. I think you've pretty much proved my point. ;)
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

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    All that means is that they really aren't yours. ;)
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

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    Interesting, did you that neodude also believes that we do not have free will? So that would mean we can't predetermine our own destinations and that we would just have be whatever we were predestined to be by some outside force.
     
  7. OlderWaterBrother

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    Well you said:
    And that is what he seems to believes.
     
  8. OlderWaterBrother

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    Seeing as the Bible says that Jesus is God's son and that Jesus was in heaven with God before living as a human on earth and now is again with his father in heaven, I would say that what Jesus taught was not so much an interpretation but a direct revelation of the thoughts of God.

    I'm not sure what you mean by discovered but the Bible does say that much can be learned about God by observing his creation.
     
  9. neodude1212

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    You weren't "stating the consequences of my philosophy", you were being characteristically evasive and condescending. It isn't my philosophy that is silly and infantile, it's your attitude. ;)

    And when did you ever have a point? Care to elaborate for us poor dark souls? ;) ;)
     
  10. neodude1212

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    Not at all. ;) ;) ;)
     
  11. neodude1212

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    No, it isn't an outside force.
    It's the understanding that everything is perfectly interwoven.
     
  12. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Okay what are the "consequences of your philosophy"?
    Perhaps you should once in while read other peoples posts, you know, just to know what other people have said.
     
  13. OlderWaterBrother

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    Some proof would be nice.
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    So you don't believe in God?
     
  15. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    You mean the endless tirade of sarcasm?
    Yeah, I saw that. Great job?
     
  16. neodude1212

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    Free will has nothing to do with "who is in possession of something."
    If I say something, that thought was mine, whether you believe in free will or not. The only difference is, the person that doesn't believe in free will doesn't think that the thought originated within.
     
  17. neodude1212

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    It is because of God that everything is perfectly interwoven in this fashion.
     
  18. OlderWaterBrother

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    Then are you God?
     
  19. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    No.
     
  20. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Ya know, man, that question doesn't make any sense at all. He's taking a position that's typical of a lot of believers. What makes you think he's claiming to be God? Those kinds of responses are just annoying.
     
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