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Nah I just aint a fuckin bitch, sorry if you can't relate.

I have no complex and I don't even know who John Wayne is nor do I care to look him up.

As you can see, your fear of guns may have kept you alive but my lack of fear of guns not only kept me alive, it also got me an ally. Meanwhile you just bitched up to a nigga who prolly wasn't gon pop off anyway because no real gangster acknowledges all that "please dont kill me man" shit.

 

Sorry but you have no idea what is inside of me or that matter anybody else.

Because that someone else is God, unlike your "inner Truth".

Your "inner Truth" is telling you stupid things like the Bible isn't true.

Well your "inner Truth" got at least one thing right, funny thing is that it's when it agrees with the Bible.

Yes, I do, in yoga they are considered to be the centers of spiritual power in body, is this where you get your "inner Truth"?

 

LMAO well enjoy your life full of fear.

Double LMAO @ my "inner Truth" being stupid because it tells me people never lived to be 1000 years old meanwhile you believe people did live to be that old simply because some fuckin book says so. Did you actually witness God write the Bible? Funny I had to actually leave Christianity behind and become a full fledged atheist to get to know God meanwhile you believe shit that pastors tell you you'll go to hell for not believing. You prolly also believe Satan exists.

And to answer your question, no I don't get my wisdom from the chakras. They're simply parts of the human body that opens when people gain more awareness, far as I know anyway. I can make sense out of everything I say, without need of any scriptures written by other people. I think for myself, you let the Bible think for you. The same Bible that tells you there's actually something to fear about God. I was getting annoyed at first but now I'm entertained by the amount of stupidity a 61 year old man allows to enter his psyche thanks to religion. Every single time you post, you make me realize how laughable Christianity is and I'm grateful God pulled me away from that bullshit.

 

Yea, but the fact I can make sense out of everything I stand by does. I said I aint afraid of guns, and I was able to logically explain why and even provided a 100% true story to back myself up while you're talkin about being scared of a fuckin unloaded gun.

I can use logic and common sense to explain every single thing I stand for. Can you logically explain how it's possible that people once lived to be 1000 years old? Can you logically explain how an all loving God would allow a devil to be created and even allow him to dwell in some land called hell that people go to if they don't follow the Bible? Can you logically explain the story of a snake appearing out of nowhere and getting into Eve's ear convincing her to get Adam to eat fruit that put mankind on God's shit list? Can you logically explain every species of animal coexisting on a big ass boat for 40 days and 40 nights? Can you even logically explain how a 600 year old human being got them on the boat to begin with? You don't think it's possible for me to pet a baby bear but you somehow think it's possible that some old ass man was able to limp his way around the jungle and convince wild animals to chill with him on a boat for 6 weeks?

 

:rofl:

 

Who said I had a life “full” of fear? Actually, I live relatively fearless life but yes fear is part of my life, mainly because I can see how fear can be useful and do not live in denial of that usefulness.

By the way, I’m still waiting for that clip of you petting a wild she bear cub while the she bear looks on.

I’ve yet to understand why your “inner Truth” leads you to be so abusive and seemly angry.

No.

You ever consider that that ‘Christianity” that you left behind was not actually Christianity and that the "God" you found is not the true God?

By the way, people don’t go to hell for not believing something, a person goes to hell because they die, no more no less.

Yes.

Okay, thanks.

A serial killer can probably make sense out of everything he says, without need of any scriptures written by other people but doesn’t make what he believes true or right.

Just because I happen to believe the Bible to be the Word of God does not mean that I didn’t come to that conclusion with thoughtful consideration, just as, because a person says that they think for themselves has to mean they do any actual thinking for themselves.

Just as I’m amused by someone thinking that by a repeated use of the word stupid he is actually proving something.

Once again I ask you, as you say you do, take a good look at your “inner Truth” and see what it has to say about what abusive speech and crude language says about you and the “Truth” you hold up as loving and something everyone should find to be an expression of the “Truth”.

 

I could give a fuck about you gettin sensitive to my "crude language". I aint attacking you, you just have no logic to back up what you say. Just the fact you believe Satan is real lets me know every time I use the word "stupid", I am correct. I'm not about to go wandering into the wilderness to pet some fuckin bear just to prove a point. As a matter of fact yes I will. Soon as you explain to me how that's not possible for me yet it was somehow possible for a 600 year old man to get 2 wild bears to coexist with 2 wild lions, 2 wild tigers, 2 wild zebras, 2 wild rhinos, etc on a big ass boat for 6 weeks.

I'm pretty sure that same Christianity I left behind was the bullshit I say it is. A religion that tells people to entertain fear throughout their lives. A religion that tells people when they die they're gonna suffer in some imaginary place called hell. A religion that made no sense whatsoever when explaining Adam and Eve. Just the fact the story of creation in the bible describes a world where humans existed before all other life forms would tell anyone with any sense that it was written by a human who sees people as the most important aspects of the Universe when in all actuality we're nothing more than specs of dust compared to the rest of the Universe.

And I don't know any serial killers nor do I know what they have to do with this. And miss me with your analogies, not one of them applied or made any sense. You somehow made an analogy of a man's relationship with God with a man's relationship to a fuckin pet tiger when the only logical analogy would've been a parent and child. Perhaps you avoided that analogy for the same reason you avoided my point that the only children who fear their parents are abused children. God doesn't abuse me, God puts me through tests and I Love God for that. Just because I don't fear God doesn't mean I live a reckless life. I live my entire life in service to God. Fear is not required for that, sorry your beliefs has convinced you that it is.

 

Far as "satan" goes:

That is yet another byproduct of your religion's standpoint that humans are more important than we really are. The devil is a figment of peoples imaginations. How can there be a single entity that provides a backbone for all of the evil in the Universe when evil doesn't exist anywhere outside human nature? The "devil" is just another byproduct of the human assumption that everything revolves around the human race.

The biggest trick the devil ever pulled was convince people he exists outside of their minds.

It's interesting how people who find God thru a personal spiritual journey describe God as all loving with no evil counterpart. But religion describes God as judgmental, vindictive, spiteful, etc AND on top of all that gives him an evil counterpart (as if religion doesn't make God out to be evil enough) called Satan.

Funny how you don't need religion to know God but apparently you need religion to know the devil. If that doesn't tell you something, I dunno what the fuck will.

 

Finally, someone who can explain exactly what I believe in such a great way. Thank you for writing this

It's true.

All you need is love

-Matt

 

Sensitive? If you will reread what was said, I at no time said that I was particularly offended by your language but I did say that it doses reflect on whether you are displaying the “love” that your “inner Truth” told you about.

I didn’t say you were attacking me. Although, all the “stupid” comments might make some feel like they are being attacked.

I have yet to see your proof that Satan isn‘t real, perhaps I missed it, would repeat it for us.

The God I believe in, helped him whereas he won’t be there to help you. I’ll be looking forward to the clips of your lack of healthy fear.

If this is what you consider to be “Christianity” and what it believes, then you were right to leave it behind because it obviously was not true Christianity and it was teaching you very little of what the Bible actually says.

You said; “I can make sense out of everything I say, without need of any scriptures written by other people.” and I pointed out that; “A serial killer can probably make sense out of everything he says, without need of any scriptures written by other people but doesn’t make what he believes true or right.” which points out that just because a person says he can make sense of everything they say does not mean that it will be sensible to anyone else since almost anyone, even a serial killer believes that what they believe is sensible, thus you saying that you can make sense out of everything you say is not proof of anything.

As an example, your trying to make having no fear seem sensible, I have to admit you make it sound sensible but having lived in the real world for some time, I know that fear can be healthy and useful and in many cases lifesaving, so although you made it sound sensible it just isn't.

Even your example of someone pulling a gun on you is not proof that a lack of fear helped you, seeing as there could have been many other reasons that the trigger wasn't pulled than a lack of fear and who is to say the very next time it happens that, lack of fear or not, you get shot anyway.

As if the only reason for fear is abuse, You seem to have very little understanding of what fear is or how it can be useful.

 

You aint lookin forward to nothing because the proof is in the pudding. I know for a fact that fear has done absolutely nothing but hold me back in life and removing it was the greatest blessing God ever gave me. And I can't prove satan is false any more or any less than you can prove satan is real. I've provided my logic of why satan is false, what reason do you have to believe in him?

And you just ducked all my bible questions. I've answered everything you asked, if not feel free to question me again. Like I said, the only children who fear their parents are abused children. Children who are Loved by their parents don't fear them. It's YOU that seem to have a lack of knowledge of what fear is. I'm not really one for using other peoples words to back up my own but I did come across a site where this dude actually explained Love and fear the same way I see it. Maybe it'll be better coming from someone else since you seem to generally view me as an attacker.

http://www.esolibris.com/articles/reality/love_versus_fear.php

 

Hey, man. Don't get the impression OWB is representative of all Christians. Quakers and other Christians, like me, accept your "Inner Light" idea. Its the fundamentalists of all the major world religions who have/are messing up the world with their twisted vision of God's will.

 

Actually no, A lot of things can seem to be to made to make sense but are untrue, whereas there are things that don’t seem to make sense but are true.

Like I’ve already posted; Even your example of someone pulling a gun on you is not proof that a lack of fear helped you, seeing as there could have been many other reasons that the trigger wasn't pulled than the lack of fear you showed and who is to say the very next time it happens that, lack of fear or not, you get shot anyway.

And as for fearing unloaded guns, I know someone who put a bullet in his brain with an “unloaded gun” because he didn’t show a healthy fear of it and now he’s not so healthy any more, so yes I have a healthy fear of even “unloaded” guns.

You keep saying common sense but do you know what it means? It only means what is commonly thought of as sensible. If you’ve ever done any roofing or rock climbing you would know that common sense can get you killed.

Because God designed us to live for ever on a paradise Earth, thus someone living only 1000 years never even stopped being a child.

God lovingly gave both angels and mankind free will but an angel improperly used that free will to turn himself into Satan the Devil. There is no “land” called hell and Satan does not dwell there, in fact he now dwells in the vicinity of the Earth. Hell is the common grave of mankind and every one who dies goes there whether the believe the Bible or not and they are merely sleeping in death, awaiting the resurrection and are not conscious of anything.

The snake did not appear out of nowhere, it was more that likely an ordinary snake like any other snake we see around us today but this particular snake was used by Satan much like a ventriloquist uses his dummy and used it to talk to Eve.

Obviously this would take help from God but the ark was not small and some animals would able to survive without being on the ark and not very single animal that we know today would have to be on the ark, just those that could be bred into the animals we see today and once again for getting them on the ark god would have helped.

Oh, I think you could perhaps pet a bear cub but I think you should only do it with a healthy fear of what the she bear could do to you if she catches you and again Noah was not alone in rounding up the animals, there were eight of them, his wife and sons and their wives and God was helping them.

 

What happens after the resurrection?

Is that the loophole you were using to justify saying that the bible and Jesus in particular does not mention eternal punishment as a possibility after death?

Or does the "resurrection" only apply to the supposed good and just?

 

I don't know but wouldn't the Devil have to exist to pull off this trick?

Interesting, so where does evil come from and why does your all loving "God", that has no evil counterpart, allow it to continue to exist.

 

Free will?

 

I've ducked none of your questions, please read on.

So you say but not all fear is caused by abuse, so why would it have to be abuse that caused the child to fear his parents?

As has been pointed out a child can fear hurting his parents, perhaps by disappointing them and never have been abused in their life.

As I have said I don't view you as an attacker, it just seems to me you have a funny way of displaying your "love".

 

Accept for 144,000 that go to heaven; everyone, the good and the bad are resurrected to a paradise Earth where they will have the opportunity to live forever, if they wish, if not God will not force them to live forever in paradise, God will allow them to again fall sleep in death but this time with no possibility for a resurrection.

 

I don't know does his "God" allow free will?

 

I respect that. I actually made a post today on another board speaking on Christians. It aint exactly the nicest shit but it's honest:

"I'm actually starting to realize the thing Christians fear the most is common sense. In all fairness though, I must admit not every Christian I've come across was a total idiot. Some were actually very intelligent. I also noticed the smart ones were the ones who entertained fear the least, if at all."