Jesus Christ lived in India

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  1. niranjan

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    "India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border."

    Hu Shih, former Ambassador of China to USA.

    Will Durant , the famous American philosopher and scholar, has stated an educated opinion in his works, that he believed Plato must have gone to India , as there are a lot of similarities between Platos works and Indian philosophy and knowledge.

    He have stated that Christianity is related to Buddhism, as revealed in this following quote of his......

    Will Durant, American historian: "India was the motherland of our race, and Sanskrit the mother of Europe's languages: she was the mother of our philosophy; mother, through the Arabs, of much of our mathematics; mother, through the Buddha, of the ideals embodied in Christianity; mother, through the village community, of self-government and democracy. Mother India is in many ways the mother of us all".


    "It is true that even across the Himalayan barrier India has sent to us such questionable gifts as grammar and logic, philosophy and fables, hypnotism and chess, and above all our numerals and our decimal system. But these are not the essence of her spirit; they are trifles compared to what we may learn from her in the future."

    ----Will Durant

    Perhaps in return for conquest, arrogance and spoliation, India will teach us the tolerance and gentleness of the mature mind, the quiet content of the unacquisitive soul,the calm of the understanding spirit,and a unifying, a pacifying love for all living things.
    ----Will Durant

    Mark Twain, American author: "India is, the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend, and the great grand mother of tradition. our most valuable and most instructive materials in the history of man are treasured up in India only."

    Max Mueller, German scholar: If I were asked under what sky the human mind has most fully developed some of its choicest gifts, has most deeply pondered on the greatest problems of life, and has found solutions, I should point to India.



    Romain Rolland, French scholar : "If there is one place on the face of earth where all the dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of existence, it is India."






    This is how Schopenhauer summarized how greatly his thoughts were influenced by Upnishads: 'It has been the solace of my life, it will be the solace of my death!


    "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous." - Albert Einstein


    "The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement of spiritual evolution of endowing value to mankind. It is one of the most clear and comprehensive summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed; hence its enduring value is subject not only to India but to all of humanity." - Aldous Huxley



    "In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seems puny and trivial." - Henry David Thoreau




    "The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly beautiful revelation of lifes wisdom which enables philosophy to blossom into religion." - Herman Hesse




    "I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita. It was the first of books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

    "The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought and in its philosophical teachings Krishna has all the attributes of the full-fledged montheistic deity and at the same time the attributes of the Upanisadic absolute." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

    "In order to approach a creation as sublime as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding it is necessary to attune our soul to it." - Rudolph Steiner


    "We have shown how much we surpass the Indians in courage and wickedness, and how inferior to them we are in wisdom. Our European nations have mutually destroyed themselves in this land where we only go in search of money, while the first Greeks travelled to the same land only to instruct themselves." - Voltaire,



    "I am convinced that everything has come down to us from the banks of the Ganges, astronomy, astrology, metempsychosis, etc." - Voltaire


    "I would say to the readers of the Scriptures, if they wish for a good book, read the Bhagvat-Geeta .... translated by Charles Wilkins. It deserves to be read with reverence even by Yankees...."Besides the Bhagvat-Geeta, our Shakespeare seems sometimes youthfully green... Ex oriente lux may still be the motto of scholars, for the Western world has not yet derived from the East all the light it is destined to derive thence."
    --Henry David Thoreau


    "One sentence of the Gita, is worth the State of Massachusetts many times over"

    --Henry David Thoreau


    "The religion and philosophy of the Hebrews are those of a wilder and ruder tribe, wanting the civility and intellectual refinements and subtlety of Vedic culture."
    --Henry David Thoreau


    "The Indian air surrounds us, the original thoughts of kindred spirits.....And O! how the mind is here washed clean of all its early ingrafted Jewish superstition! It is the most profitable and most elevating reading which is possible in the world."
    ----Arthur Schopenhaur on the upanishads

    "How every line is of such strong, determined, and consistent meaning! And on every page we encounter deep, original, lofty thoughts, while the whole world is suffused with a high and holy seriousness."

    ----Arthur Schopenhaur on the upanishads


    Vedanta is the most impressive metaphysics the human mind has conceived.​
    ----Alfred North Whitehead, mathematician, logician and philosopher​




    Schopenhauer spoke of India as the 'fatherland of mankind' which 'gave the original religion of our race,' and he expressed the hope that European peoples, 'who stemmed from Asia,...would re-attain the religion of their home.'

    "In India, our religions will never at any time take root; the ancient wisdom of the human race will not be supplanted by the events in Galilee. On the contrary, Indian wisdom flows back to Europe, and will produce a fundamental change in our knowledge and thought."

    ----Arthur Schopenhaur


    One day, India's wisdom will flow again on Europe and will totally transform our knowledge and thought."
    ----Arthur Schopenhaur


    Vedanta is the most impressive metaphysics the human mind has conceived.​

    ----Alfred North Whitehead, mathematician, logician ,philosopher​



    " I hesitate not to pronounce the Gita a performance of great originality, of sublimity of conception, reasoning and diction almost unequalled; and a single exception, amongst all the known religions of mankind.."
    -----Warren Hastings


    "Plato was synthesis of Europe and Asia, and a decidedly Oriental element pervades his philosophy, giving it a sunrise color."
    ----Ralph waldo emerson

    "The most beautiful, perhaps the only true philosophical song existing in any known tongue ....perhaps the deepest and loftiest thing the world has to show."

    ---Wilhelm von Humboldt on the Bhagavad Gita


    “I read the Indian poem for the first time when I was in my country estate in Silesia and, while doing so, I felt a sense of overwhelming gratitude to God for having let me live to be acquainted with this work. It must be the most profound and sublime thing to be found in the world. “

    ---Wilhelm von Humboldt on the Bhagavad Gita







    [​IMG]"India had the start of the whole world in the beginning of things. She had the first civilization; she had the first accumulation of material wealth; she was populous with deep thinkers and subtle intellects; she had mines, and woods, and a fruitful soul."




    -----Mark Twain.​








    "It is already becoming clear that a chapter which had a Western beginning will have to have an Indian ending if it is not to end in self-destruction of the human race. At this supremely dangerous moment in human history , the only way of salvation is the ancient Hindu way. Here we have the attitude and spirit that can make it possible for the human race to grow together in to a single family."
    ---Dr. Arnold Toynbee​


    “So now we turn to India. This spiritual gift, that makes a man human, is still alive in Indian souls. Go on giving the world Indian examples of it. Nothing else can do so much to help mankind to save itself from destruction.”

    ---Dr. Arnold Toynbee​

    “In fifty years, the world would be under the hegemony of the USA, but in the 21st century, as religion captures the place of technology, it is possible that India, the conquered, will conquer its conquerors.” ​
    ---Dr. Arnold Toynbee​


    "Religion cuts far deeper, and, at the religious level, India has not been a recipient; she has been a giver. About half the total number of the living higher religions are of Indian origin."​
    ---Dr. Arnold Toynbee​


    "India is the mother of religion. In her are combined science and religion in perfect harmony, and that is the Hindu religion, and it is India that shall be again the spiritual mother of the world."


    -----Dr . Annie Besant​


    "When we read with attention the poetical and philosophical monuments of the East--above all, those of India, which are beginning to spread in Europe--we discover there many a truth, and truths so profound, and which make such a contrast with the meanness of the results at which European genius has sometimes stopped, that we are constrained to bend the knee before the philosophy of the East, and to see in this cradle of the human race the native land of the highest philosophy."


    -----Victor Cousin , French philosopher

    “The history of Indian philosophy is the abridge history of the philosophy of the world.”
    -----Victor Cousin , French philosopher






    "At its starting point in India, the birthplace of races and religions, the womb of the world."





    ---- Jules Michelet (1798 -1874) French writer and the greatest historian of the Romantic school


    Having read Fauche's translation of the Ramayana in 1863, Michelet said:

    "That year will always remain a dear and cherished memory; it was the first time I had the opportunity to read the great sacred poem of India, the divine Ramayana. If anyone has lost the freshness of emotion, let him drink a long draught of life, and youth from that deep chalice."






    "Whoever has done or willed too much let him drink from this deep cup a long draught of life and youth........Everything is narrow in the West - Greece is small and I stifle; Judea is dry and I pant. Let me look toward lofty Asia, and the profound East for a little while. There lies my great poem, as vast as the Indian ocean, blessed, gilded with the sun, the book of divine harmony wherein is no dissonance. A serene peace reigns there, and in the midst of conflict an infinite sweetness, a boundless fraternity, which spreads over all living things, an ocean (without bottom or bound) of love, of pity, of clemency."






    -----------Michelet on the Ramayana.





    " It is very important to note that some 2,500 years ago at the least Pythagoras went from Samos to the Ganges to learn geometry...But he would certainly not have undertaken such a strange journey had the reputation of the Brahmins' science not been long established in Europe..."
    -----Voltaire











































    "The first principle of Indian thought, therefore, is that the ultimate reality is beyond description. It is something that can be experienced only by bringing the mind to a stop; and once experienced, it cannot be described to anyone in terms of the forms of this world. The truth, the ultimate truth, that is to say, is transcendent. it goes past, transcends, all speech all images, anything that can possibly be said. But, as we have just seen, it is not only transcendent, it is also immanent, within all things, Everything in the world, therefore, is to be regarded as its manifestation. There is an important difference her between the Indian and the Western ideas.

    [​IMG]"There is an important difference between the Hindu and the Western ideas. In the Biblical tradition, God creates man, but man cannot say that he is divine in the same sense that the Creator is, where as in Hinduism, all things are incarnations of that power. We are the sparks from a single fire. And we are all fire. Hinduism believes in the omnipresence of the Supreme God in every individual. There is no "fall". Man is not cut off from the divine. He requires only to bring the spontaneous activity of his mind stuff to a state of stillness and he will experience that divine principle with him."



    ----Joseph Campbell​




    "There is an illuminating story told of the deity Krishna, who, in the form of a human child, was raised among a little company or tribe of herdsmen. One day he said to them, when he saw them preparing to worship one of the great Gods of the Brahminical pantheon: "But why do you worship a deity in the sky? The support of your life is here, in your cattle. Worship these! " Whereupon, they hung garlands around the necks of their cattle and paid them worship. This wonderful art of recognizing the divine presence in all things, as a ubiquitous presence, is one of the most striking features of Oriental life, and is particularly prominent in Hinduism."

    ----Joseph Campbell


    "It may be with truth be asserted that no description of Hinduism can be exhaustive which does not touch on almost every religious and philosophical idea that the world has ever known. It is all-tolerant, all-comprehensive, all-compliant, all-absorbing. It has its spiritual and its material aspect; it’s esoteric and exoteric; it’s subjective and objective; it’s rational and irrational. It has one side for the practical; another for the severely moral; another for the devotional and the imaginative; another for the philosophical and speculative."
    ----Monier Williams,oxford professor​

    The Panini grammar reflects the wondrous capacity of the human brain, which till today no other country has been able to produce except India.​

    ----Monier Williams,oxford professor​



    If I were asked under what sky the human mind has most fully developed some of its choicest gifts, has most deeply pondered over the greatest problems of life, and has found solutions of some of them which well deserve the attention even of those who have studied Plato and Kant, I should point to India." And if I were to ask myself from what literature we who have been nurtured almost exclusively on the thoughts of Greeks and Romans, and of the Semitic race, the Jewish, may draw the corrective which is most wanted in order to make our inner life more perfect, more comprehensive, more universal, in fact more truly human a life...again I should point to India." ​
    ----Max Mueller​

    The conception of the world as deduced from the veda , and chiefly from the upanishads , is indeed astounding. ​
    ----Max Mueller​




    "In the Rig Veda we shall have before us more real antiquity than in all the inscriptions of Egypt or Ninevah ... the Veda is the oldest book in existence..."​

    ----Max Mueller​




    "The Vedic literature opens to us a chamber in the education of human race to which we can find no parallel anywhere else. Whoever cares for the historical growth of our language and thought, whoever cares for the first intelligent development of religion and mythology, whoever cares for the first foundation of Science, Astronomy, Metronomy, Grammar and Etymology, whoever cares for the first intimation of the first philosophical thoughts, for the first attempt at regulating family life, village life and state life as founded on religion, ceremonials, traditions and contact must in future pay full attention to the study of Vedic literature."

    ----Max Mueller​


    We have to be grateful to the Indians for teaching us how to count without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made.​
    ----Albert Einstein.​
     
  2. niranjan

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    "The whole of their (Hindu) literature, from one end to the other, is pervaded by expression of love and reverence for truth.'
    ----Max Mueller



    "It is surely astounding that such a system as the Vedanta should have been slowly elaborated by the indefatigable and intrepid thinkers of India thousands of years ago, a system that even now makes us feel giddy,[/color][/b]as in mounting last steps of the swaying spire of a Gothic cathedral. None of our philosophers, not excepting Heraclitus, Plato, Kant or Hegel, has ventured to erect such a spire, never frightened by storms or lighting. Stone follows on stone after regular succession after once the first step has been made, after once it has been clearly seen that in the beginning there can have been One, as there will be but One in the end, whether we call it Atman or Brahman."

    ----Max Mueller



    "Whatever sphere of the human mind you may select for your special study, whether it be language, or religion, or mythology, or philosophy, whether it be law or customs, primitive art or primitive science, everywhere you have to go to India, whether you like it or not, because some of the most valuable and instructive materials of the history of man are treasured up in India and India only."

    ----Max Mueller


    The Hindus were a people remarkedly gifted for philosophical abstraction.
    ----Max Mueller



    The earliest of these upanishads will always maintain a place in the philosophical literature of the world among the most astounding products of the human mind.

    ---Max Mueller




    I have not found in Europe and America poets, thinkers, or popular leaders equal , or even comparable , to those of India today.

    ---Count Heymann Keyserling,philosopher and author



    "Hinduism at its best has spoken the only relevant truth about the way to self-realization in the full sense of the word.'

    ---Count Heymann Keyserling


    India has produced the profoundest metaphysics that we know of


    ---Count Heymann Keyserling

    The absolute superiority of India over the west in philosophy; poetry from the Mahabharatha, containing the Bhagavad Gita, perhaps the most beautiful work of the literature of the world.

    ---Count Heymann Keyserling



    "Benares is holy. Europe, grown superficial, hardly understands such truths anymore.....I feel nearer here than I have ever done to the heart of the world; here I feel everyday as if soon, perhaps even today, I would receive the grace of supreme revelation...The atmosphere of devotion which hangs above the river is improbable in strength; stronger than in any church that I have ever visited. Every would be Christian priest would do well to sacrifice a year of his theological studies in order to spend his time on the Ganges; here he would discover what piety means."

    ---Count Heymann Keyserling






    "Let us return to our eagle's nest in the Himalayas. It is waiting for us, for it is ours, eaglets of Europe, we need not renounce any part of our real nature...whence we formerly took our flight."

    ----Romain Rolland, French Nobel Prize winner in literature



    "The greatest human ideal is the great cause of bringing together the thoughts of Europe and Asia; the great soul of India will topple our world

    ----Romain Rolland
     
  3. ChiefCowpie

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    if you understood vedanta, you would stop trying to compare how it is better or superior than other philosophies
     
  4. niranjan

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    And where have I stated that it is better or superior to other philosophies!

    This was stated by the ones above. Not me.
     
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    You have proven nothing, other than you ability to cut and paste - nobody can actually even prove Jesus existed, that is the fact.
     
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    "India conquered and dominated China culturally for twenty centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border. This cultural conquest was never imposed by India on her neighbors. It was all the result of voluntary searching, voluntary learning, voluntary pilgrimage and voluntary acceptance on the part of China."

    ------Hu Shih, a former Ambassador of China to USA


    "India is culturally the Mother of Japan. For centuries it has, in her own characteristic way, been exercising her influence on the thought and culture of Japan."
    -- Prof. Hajime Nakamura (1912 - 1999) Japanese scholar.


    "The study of Japanese thought is the study of Indian thought." - Eminent Zen Scholar, Dr. D. Suzuki.





    "In the veins of every one of my people flows the blood of Indian ancestors and the culture that we possess is steeped through and through with Indian influences. Two thousand years ago people from your country came to Jawadvipa and Suvarnadvipa in the spirit of brotherly love.

    -----Suharto Sukarno (1901- 1970) Indonesian nationalist leader and the first President of Indonesia.



    "The lands, militarily conquered by China, had to adopt or imitate her institutions, customs, religions, language and script. On the contrary, those, whom India peacefully conquered, by the prestige of her culture, have preserved the essence of their individual characters and have developed them, each according to its own genius."

    ----George Coedes





    “When we refer to thousand year old ties which unite us with India, it is not at all a hyperbole. "

    "In fact, it was about 2000 years ago that the first navigators, Indian merchants and Brahmins brought to our ancestors their gods, their techniques, their organization. Briefly India was for us what Greece was to Latin Orient."

    ----Norodom Sihanouk, Head of the State of the Royal Government of Cambodia





    "In Eastern Asia the influence of India has been notable in extent, strength, and duration."
    ---Charles Norton Eliot


    "The vast extent of Indian cultural influences, from Central Asia in the North to tropical Indonesia in the South, and from the Borderlands of Persia to China and Japan, has shown that ancient India was a radiating center of a civilization, which by its religious thought, its art and literature, was destined to leave its deep mark on the races wholly diverse and scattered over the greater part of Asia."

    ---Sir Marc Aurel Stein (1862-1943)



    "Indian art had accompanied Indian religion across straits and frontiers into Sri Lanka, Java, Cambodia, Siam, Burma, Tibet, Khotan, Turkestan, Mongolia, China, Korea and Japan; in Asia all roads lead from India.”

    ----Will Durant



    "The culture of India has been one of the world's most powerful civilizing forces. Countries of the Far East, including China, Korea, Japan, Tibet and Mongolia owe much of what is best in their own cultures to the inspiration of ideas imported from India. The West, too, has its own debts." But the members of that circle of civilizations beyond Burma scattered around the Gulf of Siam and the Java Sea, virtually owe their very existence to the creative influence of Indian ideas... No conquest or invasion, no forced conversion imposed them. They were adopted because people saw that they were good and that they could use them..."
    -----Philip S. Rawson




    "In the high plateau of eastern Iran, in the oases of Serindia, in the arid wastes of Tibet, Mongolia, and Manchuria, in the ancient civilized lands of China and Japan, in the lands of the primitive Mons and Khmers and other tribes of Indo-China, in the countries of the Malaya-Polynesians, in Indonesia and Malay, India left the indelible impress of her high culture, not only upon religion, but also upon art, and literature, in a word, all the higher things of spirit."

    "There is an obstinate prejudice thanks to which India is constantly represented as having lived, as it were, hermetically sealed up in its age-old civilization, apart from the rest of Asia. Nothing could be more exaggerated. During the first eight centuries of our era, so far as religion and art are concerned, central Asia was a sort of Indian colony. It is often forgotten that in the early Middle Ages there existed a "Greater India," a vast Indian empire. A man coming from the Ganges or the Deccan to Southeast Asia felt as much at home there as in his own native land. In those days the Indian Ocean really deserved its name."

    ---- Rene Grousset, (1885-1952) French art historian





    Everywhere, Indian influence prevailed over the Chinese, and for evident reasons: an undoubted cultural superiority owing to much greater philosophic and religious insight. Indian Civilization respected the political autonomy of its colonies and the cultural freedom of all its units, and, on the whole, worked through peaceful penetration.
    ----Amaury de Riencourt


    "The brightest sun shining over Southeast Asia in the first centuries A.D. was Indian Civilization. Waves of Indian colonists, traders, soldiers, Brahmins and Buddhist beat upon one Southeast shore after another. Great military power based on superior technical knowledge, flourishing trade fostered by the remarkable increase in maritime exchanges between India and these areas, the vast cultural superiority of the Indians, everything conspired to heighten the impact of the Indian Civilization on the Southeast Asian. Passenger ships plied regularly between the Ganges, Ceylon and Malaya in the middle of the first millennium A.D. Indian settlers from Gujarat and Kalinga colonized Java, for instance, while others set out for Burma or Cambodia. Old Indian books – the Kathasagara, the Jatakas and others – refer to these wondorous regions that set the imagination of civilized Indians on fire, to Suvarnabhumi, the fabulous “Land of Gold.” On the whole, the Indianization of Southeast Asia proceeded peacefully. All over Southeast Asia tremendous ruins are strewn, testifying to the immense influence of Indian Civilization. "


    ----Amaury de Riencourt





    "India, indeed, began to exercise a profound cultural influence on her neighbors to the eastward - Burma, Siam, Malaya, Cambodia, Java and Sri Lanka all falling beneath her sway. And this, as far as one can may judge, almost entirely as a result of trading and peaceful penetration by missionaries, merchants and others, and not by force of arms." "The beginnings of Indian colonization overseas eastward go back a very long way in time and it is almost certain that the results seen today were, in the main, not achieved by military expedition, but by peaceful trading and religious teaching - and thereby all the more permanent."

    ----- Reginald S. Le May (1885 - )






    "The Vedanta and the Sankhya hold the key to the laws of mind and thought process which are co-related to the Quantum Field, i.e. the operation and distribution of particles at atomic and molecular levels."

    -----Prof. Brian David Josephson , youngest Nobel Laureate






    "From Persia to the Chinese Sea, from the icy regions of Siberia to the islands of Java and Borneo, from Oceania to Socotra, India has propagated her beliefs, her tales and her civilization. She has left indelible imprints on one-fourth of the human race in the course of a long succession of centuries. She has the right to reclaim in universal history the rank that ignorance has refused her for a long time and to hold her place amongst the great nations summarizing and symbolizing the spirit of Humanity."

    ----French scholar, Sylvain Levi (1863-1935)


    “Each of the colonial cultures and art styles of Ceylon, Indonesia, and Further India, as well as that of Tibet, China, Korea and Japan, took over in a worthy way the Indian heritage, giving to it an original and happy local application. Out of various ethnological and biological requirements self-contained styles were formed that were the peers in originality, nobility and delicacy of the Indian.”

    -----Heinrich Zimmer




    "In religion, India is the only millionaire .... The One land that all men desire to see and having seen once, by even a glimpse, would not give that glimpse for all the shows of all the rest of the globe combined".

    - Mark Twain






    "What extracts from the Vedas I have read fall on me like the light of a higher and purer luminary which describes a loftier course through a purer stratum - free from particulars, simple, universal."
    ---- Henry David Thoreau






    "Today we are still living in a transitional chapter of the world's history, but it is already becoming clear that a chapter which had a Western beginning will have to have an Indian ending if it is not to end in the self-destruction of the race."
    ----Arnold Toynbee
     
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    You keep saying this thread is irrevalent and yet keep on coming again and again which itself shows that you find this thread relevant.

    And indeed from the OP onwards I have presented our conviction that Jesus lived in India,with books and proofs, which you like conveniently overlook, and for obvious reasons as well.

    As for the cut and paste, I have done some cut and paste,in order to furnish proofs to substantiate our view that Jesus lived in India.Cut and paste is really a time saving tool. I don't think I have committed a major sin or something like rape or murder for you to make such a big noise about it.

    Anyway coming from you , I am not surprised. You are more interested in minor things like that instead of the proofs mentioned in this thread.
     
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    There are no proofs - nothing you've posted here is proof. So I repeat again, there is no evidence outside the Biblical accounts that Jesus ever existed, let alone went off to India or any other place.
     
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    And I repeat again there are proofs as I mentioned in my previous posts and the OP.
     
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    snake sedrick Banned

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    That is an absurdity. If such proofs existed, they would be well known as the churches would like to have such proof - but it doesn't exist. Only the Bible, and a few gnostic documents written centuries after Jesus alleged life - no other evidence whatsoever.
     
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    Absurdity in your mind ,mate.




    You keep on emphatically stating that such proof does not exist, when I have clearly stated in my OP and subsequent posts of proofs. This reflects light more on your state of mind.

    And as for your saying that the churches would like to have proof , thats a laugh. Even if they get the proof, they will keep on denying it for obvious reasons.

    Why do you think they burned the noble Joan at the stake, Cervetes and persecuted Galileo for saying the truth and harshly criticised Charles Darwin, and harshly reprimanded the catholic priest anthony de mello for his works combining eastern wisdom, and stopped short of excommunicating him, considering his massive popularity ?

    Do you seriously think the church with such a history, will pay attention to the truth that jesus lived in India even if provided with all the proofs! I don't think so.

    Even if Jesus himself came to the church and stated that he had indeed lived in India, the church will not accept it, as it will be the end of their commercial establishment. They probably will tell Jesus to get lost, or proclaim him a heretic or something. And if it was 2-3 centuries back , they might even burn him at the stake as well.
     
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    Npthing you have said is proof. As I've already said, if there were such proof, the churches would be keen to promote it, but the fact is it doesn't exist, and nothing you or anyone else can say or argue amounts to proof.

    Outside tha Bible and the gonstic scriptures, there is absolutely no evidence that Jesus ever lived in India or anywhere else on this planet. It is fact, like it or not.
     
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    And my reply is the same to you as i posted last. It is a fact, like it or not.
     
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    This is pointless, and a bit ridiculous. Ask any christian if there is proof outside the Bible of Jesus existence - I mean educated christian not some fundie moron.


    Either way, I'm through with this.

    If you want to belive in legends it's your own affair.
     
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    Pointless and ridiculous to you, not to us.



    And why do you think christian scholars both in India ( which i mentioned earlier) and outside India says there is proof.

    And did I invite you to this thread. No, you came on your own, and is leaving on your own.(which probably you won't follow) In fact you keep saying that this thread is irrevalent, and keep coming back again and again and again.......


    Fine, I will have a passionate and hot affair with legends. Why are you jealous of my virility !!!!!!!!
     
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    Would it be possible for you to condense the physical evidence of Jesus having visted India please. I know you have provided evidence in terms of websites etc, and quotes of people who believe he did visit India. But perhaps some descriptive text of the evidence would be useful and make the thread more constructive again.
     
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    I do believe , I have provided links on the tomb of Jesus in Pahalgam, Kashmir.
    Also the recorded conversation between Jesus and the Indian king.Go back and check it out. You can also find more on this in the book " Jesus lived in India" ,by Helger Kersten.

    I will provide more.
     
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    I don't give a shit about you're 'virility'. Perhaps you do though, as you seem keen to mention it at every opportunity.

    Perhaps you confuse virility with critical intelligence.
     
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    Well, well, well, look whos back. So my prediction that you will come back again was correct indeed . So much for the 'irrevalence of this thread' part from you .

    Your thoughts ,words and deeds are sure in harmony with each other.

    And where have I mentioned about my virility or hot and steamy affair with legends before!!!!

    You sure are confused aren't you, to take seriously a joke of mine.
     
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    You'd do better to find a woman than these dull old legends to get passionate about.
     
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