Jesus Christ lived in India

These are all facts.

The fact you have to respond by calling me 'fool' indicates what type of person you are.

You cannot logically reason an argument without insults.

 

And please produce some refutable physical evidence that Jesus lived in India.

 

http://www.topix.net/forum/religion/hindu/TA3CB6ODAOQHMRUTM

another place you posted i see, with similar success

 

And which are the facts, you *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why do you think Buddha used the term neighbour , and to exhorts one to love even when hated, similar words used by Jesus 5 centuries later ?And this is only one example .

There is a book released called " Jesus and Buddha : The parallel sayings, " which was criticized by insecure christian fanatics saying that Christ is superior to Buddha and other crap. Go through the book yourself.

Aristotle has said that excellence should be rewarded. I am only rewarding your excellence in foolishness.

Also if you go through this thread you can also see me ' rewarding ' other deserving candidates like Hitler and Goebbels, and their cronies.

You pay a great deal of attention to that one word of mine, and put your head in the sands when I produce quotes of the Buddha uncannily similar to Jesus, and other material and links. Shows a lot about your intellectual honesty( or lack of it)

 

http://www.tombofjesus.com/2007/home.html

 

Well I think it's quite possible Jesus was influenced by the Buddha and Indian scriptures.

But I also think it's quite possible that anyone who has an experience of the devine would create a teaching saying 'love thy neighbour'.

The fact is I do not know where Jesus was influenced from. Anyone who says they do are stretching the facts. That's only my point.

And I just do not see the benefit of spending a great deal of time on this subject. Jesus was correct, the Buddha was correct, that's all that matters to me.

 

And how many teachers around the world who have experienced the divine have usen the term 'neighbor ' like Buddha and Jesus ?

 

I'll stop now. I've stated my belief in my last post.

I just don't care whether Jesus lived in India or not.

 

I'm not going to argue with you any longer Niranjan. Because you just use your ethno-centrism to refute the things I back up with facts. But I will say a few things:

- Just because Tamil wasn't attested til after Sanskrit, doesn't mean it doesn't come from a larger Proto-Dravidian language that wasn't writen. Writen languages and spoken languages are two different animals

- I know Saraswati Mata is the goddess of wisdom and learning and the arts...but what I was saying was she was originally also goddess of the Saraswati River...once it dried up, she lost this association with the river.

- I am well aware of Western theories of India...and I don't support them. I support research done in the name of science. I know, you prob. don't like Sir Mortimer Wheeler...but he did great work in the IVR area...and his work was late expanded on by Westerners and Easterns alike including my Professor, Dr. Mohammed R. Mughal.... so as I say believe what you like....but I'm telling you what I know... I too will one day work on archaeology in South Asia... that is why I will argue for the archaeological record.

- I never denyed the existance of Jesus Christ, but just because he existed doesn't necessarily mean that all the information and about him is the truth....including that he died in Kashmir....you'd have quite the fight with the people who think they found his ossuary in Jerusalem...neither of which are probably his ossuary.

- Taking down the mosque at Ayodhya was not justified. Two wrongs do not make a right...ever. What was done was done. And that mosque could've meant just as much as the temple at Ayodhya means to Hindus. Do you think Sri Ram would've justified this action of destroying a house of God in His name? I always wonder this...just like I wonder what Lord Jesus thinks when wrong is done in his name.

Instead of taking these stories and trying to find them in material remains....why not take them for the lessons they teach us and use them to make our lives better.

This is all I have to say. I personally believe you are mistaken and I can back my beliefs with facts (that aren't from wikipedia)...but it is mho...and I bow out here. I will not flame your fire any longer. If you want to be ethno-centric...you go ahead...it makes you no better than the Western scholars you so despise. I can't wait for the day when social sciences come from a neutral stand point. I pray it begins with my generation.

 

Yeh, really...me neither.

 

And did I say that you have to care whether Jesus lived in India or not ! No, I don't think so.

This thread is for those who care !

And there have been christians who love the dharmic culture and religions hinduism and buddhism who have appreciated me for bringing this to their attention.

 

And which I have refuted with facts as well.

And where is this larger proto-dravidian language ? I am interested because I speak a so-called dravidian language myself.

The truth is there is no such thing. Nothing in the tamil scriptures point to it.
Our own scriptures state that tamil was created by rishi agastya.

The rig veda states sarasvati as the name of the river and also the name of the goddess of learning, knowledge and wisdom.

Vivekananda prayed to sarasvati , before the speech in the parliament of religions in chicago, which shook the world.

And I believe that it is most probably his tomb.

The mosque was dilapidated and muslims stopped worshipping in it a long time back. And even then I believe we have every right to get it back as it is one of our holy sites. As I said before, if the hindus invaded saudi arabia, and destroyed the kaaba and put a temple on it, would it be right.
Even muslim scholars themselves in India are saying that what babar have done is not correct.

You can do that. However we are interested in both, as it is our history.

 

Yes I do have to admit to being foolish for entering into this thread.

Goodbye and I hope this subject matter is of benefit to yourself and others.

 

So you do admit my ' compliment' was correct. Good, thats the spirit.

Oh believe me, it is.

 

Another interesting link....


http://www.tombofjesus.com/links.htm

 

No i meant these wacko theory threads are always created by fundamentalist people who are incapable of considering they may be wrong.

As the saying goes,

Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

 

You yourself were admitting that you were foolish, and you said goodbye and that you don't care about this thread. And you refute what you have said, and keep coming back. Not only foolishness, but lack of consistency is also your hallmark.

How well you have described yourself. However I didn't follow this above advice and have argued with you and beaten you with logic employing vaada and a little bit of jalpa.

 

In retrospect I must say that we all make mistakes and there is a fool in each one of us, and whom we should try to eradicate. Philuk has a good heart.

No one is perfect, but that should also not be an excuse to commit mistakes.

 

Reading through the thread since my last post, I'd say that the only thing you've proved, Niranjan, is you own narrowness of mind and Indio centric views.

This whole thing of mythical tales of Jesus is not something you can prove by any concieveable means, other than actual time travel. Logic and quotes from specul;ative writings are not evidence.
There is actually no certain evidence that Jesus lived at all, let alone the alleged vists to India, Britain, and according to some America.
These are legends and will remain so. It has really very little relevance to our real issues today.

 

Of course , according to your point of view, which I have refuted by logic many times.

Logic and quotes are indeed evidence, which you, like the church, refuse to see and acknowledge due to ulterior motives.

And there is evidence which I have cited in the OP, and in this thread as well, and which has been stated by scholars as well.

Are there any books and facts from scholarly sources like I have furnished to state that Jesus has gone to Britain or America. Not at all.

And it is highly probable that Jesus has been in India, considering that he lived in the middle east in Asia,(not in Europe) just next to India. And he only need to go by the roman silk road to reach India.

And as I stated before , it does have relevance to a certain people and this thread is for them. If you find this irrevalent , why bother reading this. Did I compel you to read this ? Not at all.