Jesus Christ and Atheism

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by bird_migration, Aug 9, 2018.

  1. bird_migration

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    Hello friends,

    Literally hundreds of years ago an amazingly wonderful fellow called Jesus Christ died on a crossroad near Jerusalem.
    There have been many books written about him, most famously one called the 'King James Bible'. I forgot the author of this masterpiece, but if you insist I can look it up for you.
    If you haven't read it I can definitely recommend it to all of us. The book, you could say it's an autobiography about Jesus Christ, consists of first-hand accounts and encounters with Jesus Christ.

    Like an urban spaceman once said: "here comes the twist":
    Hence the conundrum; can you still be an atheist knowing Jesus Christ was real, and he actually WAS the son of God?

    In loving spirit and praise be with you,

    bird
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Haha, help!
     
  3. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    Well look who is back
     
  4. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Jesus spent a whole lot of time camping out with 12 dudes, we know what that really means
     
  5. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    Blame it on the drugs
     
  6. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    i insist.
     
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  8. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    It's quite a list.
     
  9. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Oh wow, bird migration. :D
     
  10. GLENGLEN

    GLENGLEN Banned

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    Bird..Bird..Bird......Bird Is The Word...... :D

    Can't Find The Video Of That Song.....:disappointed:



    Cheers Glen.
     
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  11. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Well, I know they used it in full metal jacket, so you might be able to find that clip lol. I used to have the full metal sound track on cassette. :D my dad had a friend with an older son who gave me lots of music. I used to love recording cd to cassette. :tongueclosed: all my group listened to Metallica on cassette, usually I'd be the one with the cd and then just recorded to cassette. But by then cds had taken over. I wish I had my cassette wallet, I'm not sure where that has ended up. It was ugly, poo brown. Leather. Could hold 10-15 cassettes. I had all the 60, 70s Nam music cassettes, that's how I grew up listening to rock and roll. I slowly progressed to hard rock and then metal and then went full head banging death metal for ages, then tones back, rediscovered the old stuff 10 years later and now I'm fused between rock n roll, metal as a whole, crappy rap and country. :tearsofjoy: with a touch of folk and classical.
     
  12. Total Darkness

    Total Darkness 100% Cocoa

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    lol Interesting to see where this thread went in just the first few posts.

    Yes, a person can be atheist if they believe in Jesus. Of course not if they believe Jesus was the son of God. A person can believe in Jesus without believing in God.
     
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    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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  14. GLENGLEN

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    ^^^^...LOL.....Now That's Going To Be Stuck In My Head For Days......If Not Weeks...... :D



    Cheers Glen.
     
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  15. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

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    Is there any impeteus for an atheist believing in Jesus?

    Jesus would be viewed as a liar/delusional if a dissenting atheist takes his claims at face value or a distorted character if following the authors of the Bible, so at that point is the belief primarily in attempts to resolve a sense of historical accuracy?

    That seems bordering on a amusing paradox...
     
  16. Irminsul

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    He was just a carpenter though. It's not too hard to believe that at some point there may have been a guy named jesus who was a carpenter and maybe even a admired philosopher Amongst social groups and peers.
     
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  17. Total Darkness

    Total Darkness 100% Cocoa

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    A person can believe that such a character has existed without believing there was a God........Not much more to it then that. lol

    Reasons may vary, obviously.
     
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  19. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    I'll bite. I'm a Christian. The part of the "conundrum" that an atheist might have trouble with is "knowing he actually WAS the son of God"? Obviously, if an atheist "knew" that, (s)he wouldn't be an atheist. So, No. (s)he can't. Unless you take "son of God" to be an honorific title, which is how it was used by the Jews of ancient times.

    A person could still be an atheist and believe that Jesus was a real person, and could even believe he was a really wise person whose teachings are worth following. But by definition, an atheist can't believe that Jesus was divine.
     
  20. That's so stupid...the "son of God." Like God is sitting up in Heaven on a lazy boy, reading the paper and smoking a pipe in a cardigan...and he's like, overjoyed when Jesus hits a baseball or something. Can't quite be there for the kid, but Jesus knows it's his dad anyway. How dumb is that?
     

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