Jesuits And The Vatican Ii

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  1. cherryorc

    cherryorc Members

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    To me all religion started with a noble promise. The hope of a new and better way of life, with the promise of riches in an eternal heaven. No matter how noble the persuit, does the end justify the means? Religion seems to think so. Looking back on history I am amazed at why people even still believe in the fables and fiction of the bible.

    Nothing in the Old Testament has any valididity or word of truth to it:

    1. Adam and Eve were the first humans?
    - so where did all the other people come from when Cain left and found a wife?
    2. What happened to the tree of life?
    - 22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.

    Those are just a few questions from the first couple chapters. If you call yourself a christian, do you also believe that there is a magic tree being gaurded by a cheribum? Why haven't you looked for it?

    Everything in the New Testament is only backed by the Old Testament:

    1. There is no evidence that Jesus ever existed, yet churches still think that reciting a creed every week makes it true.
    2. We know nothing about the life and character of Jesus, yet you worship him as god.


    Given the history of corruption in the Holy Roman Catholic church, how can anyone still desire to send money to them? How have they changed to keep their followers? How do they attempt to justify the burning of books, the eradication of other religions, the genocide of other races, the crusades, the inquisition, and most notably the secret practices of the Jesuits to infiltrate and subvert anyone who isn't a Jesuit? Everyone seems to know the nefarious intentions of the Jesuit order to create a new world order where murder, lies, robbery, and torture were not only ok but a common practice if it furthered the goals of the society.

    Just so you know I am not just picking on Catholics, I was raised as a Southern Baptist by a freemason preacher. Our ideas on the rapture and free will corrolate well with the Jesuits depiction of end times. Maybe freemasonry was infiltrated and subverted who knows? I no longer attend any church, I am agnostic and believe in God. I just think that is does more harm than good to perpetuate lies.
     
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Adam and Eve were the first WHITE people sent out to RE-populate the earth after the last ice age. Prior to this there was only one gender, which is the hermaphrodite.

    The fact is that civilization is tens of thousands of years -- not 6,000 years -- old.

    Jesus never existed and was a MYTHICAL figure of the gnostics in which the Vatican hijacked and merged with the Babylonian mystery religions, making "him" a sun god.

    Jesus translates to "he's us." The story of Jesus is the story of one who looks within themselves for the truth, since creation lies within each person and NOT within organized religion. Jesus was a purely mythical figure and never existed in physical form. Jesus was basically the mascot of the gnostics before his name was hijacked by the Vatican and made into a sun god.
     
  3. cherryorc

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    How do you know the people writting the first Adam and eve story were even white? The story we have today could have been plagiarized. I don't know how you can sound so certain, but it sounds like you made a racist joke lol.

    So if that is Jesus, why do people give up reason for belief? Do you think it might be a mental illness? Has anyone ever done actual scienctific study on the psychological differences in "church-goers" vs. "non-church-goers"? Or even believers vs. non-believers?
     
  4. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Is that was man has done? Turned earth into an insane asylum? :d

    No wonder I need nature and animals to keep my balance in man's insane world.
    Lol
     
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  5. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Are you serious? Jesus probably did exist. Why would first century Jews make up a crucified Savior, when they thought such a person would be cursed? The Gnostics probably came late in the game-- after Paul and the Jewish Christians. And Jesus in Hebrew was Yeshua (ישוע), a variant of Joshua, which means Yah saves or savior. Yaישע (Yasha;savior)Yhwh ( ה ;Yah).
     
  6. Okiefreak

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    "Nothing in the Old Testament has any valididity or word of truth to it:" You mean like your statement? Archaeologists and historians have confirmed that many parts of the Old Testament are factual. There are many parts that are not, like the passage in Genesis that you quote, the Genesis creation myth. As early as the third century, Origen, the leading theologian of the Church, recognized that this was just an allegory, not meant to be taken as factually accurate. Adam and Eve were the prototypical humans, there was no Garden, no tree, no Cain, no cherubs etc.But your blanket generalization is also incorrect.

    "Everything in the New Testament is only backed by the Old Testament:" Again, you overgeneralize. Where in the Old Testament do you find a crucified savior who came to die for our sins?

    " There is no evidence that Jesus ever existed" Yes there is. Try Bart Ehrman's Did Jesus Exist? You might not find the evidence convincing, but most secular historians do.

    Everyone seems to know the nefarious intentions of the Jesuit order to create a new world order where murder, lies, robbery, and torture were not only ok but a common practice if it furthered the goals of the society.The Catholic Church and Jesuits have been guilty of plenty of misdeeds and corruption over the centuries, but your description borders on propaganda,--maybe picked up from the Southern Baptist Freemason preacher who raised you?

    I just think that is does more harm than good to perpetuate lies. I agree. So you might do a little more fact checking on your posts.
     
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  7. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    LOL

    You're aware there are more languages than english and Jesus is not an english name right? I just keep it at that question for now but if you are entirely serious in this post im disappointed.
     
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