It's WAR in the Middle East!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by skip, Dec 27, 2008.

  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Who killed Rabin?
     
  2. flmkpr

    flmkpr Senior Member

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    lets take it from the bottom up, ok with you? (notice the ?????)
    i was perfectly sober when i made that post! unlike outher posts ive made!
    so do you beleive that palistine has a right to exist?
    it may seem rediculous but some believe so!
    is it that racisim is only confined to black pepole?
    i will not type the word you used because it is not allowed in my house! when it is the offending person is iether ejected(askd to leave) or severly chastized! what happens in your house while speaking of non semetic pepole?
    (remember the ??????)
     
  3. Bonsai Ent

    Bonsai Ent Member

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    Hmmm, ok, I've given it a lot of thought, and my solution is this:

    We get all the big world powers together, and announce that in five days time we will nuke the entirety of Israel, Palestine, Gaza, the lot, into total oblivian.
    Unless the bloody fools start getting along like adults.

    Five days is ample time for "innocents" to flee the area if they no longer wish to be involved, and also ample time to solve all of the problems in the middle east, if people would just stop being so pig headed.

    We should simply dictate it to them as a matter of fact.

    "either problems are over, or you all die"

    Simple.


    Now, let's take bets.
    Are the two sides in this conflict so stubbourn that they would choose nuclear holocaust for themselves and all they hold dear, instead of compromise and negotiation?



    *Warning this post may contain sarcasm above the RDA
     
  4. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    Yes, I strongly believe in the right of Palestine to exist as its own nation.
     
  5. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    A right-wing Israeli radical named Yigal Amir. Orthodox Jew.

    Zionist.


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  6. flmkpr

    flmkpr Senior Member

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    thank you i know some of my questions were antagonistic, but i find that sometimes its the quickest way to learn were a man stands!
    i agree that hamas is not! a good governing body, i also think that a jewish controld isreal is not the answer iether,
    so now i have to ask you? do you think that ther is a way that jews and arabs could live peacefully together?

    it will be a while before i come back the sun came out and i have work to do.
    peace!!!!!!
     
  7. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    All they have to do is live together as Israelis instead of Jewish this or Muslim that.

    The Jews will have to give up the notion of a country. As they've had this idea beaten into them for 60 years, this is the main sticking point.

    No more Jews only highways. No more Jews only settlements. No more Jews only licence plates. You'll have to get a new flag too. The current one is racist. Just like the crossed stars and bars in the Conferate flag is. It represents old ways.

    The old ways need to go away. Then maybe Israel will know peace.

    Until then, you're a threat to the rest of the world and you need to be contained through embargo and boycott. And the removal of US aid that funds your military operations.

    The key to that happening is education of the American public concerning the "real" Israel.



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  8. BraveSirRubin

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    All fundemental Muslim terrorists have to be killed and disarmed, all of the Israeli settlers have to be completely moved out of Gaza, the governments of Iran and Syria have to be overthrown, and an autonomous Palestinian government should be created under the careful watch of the international community (in other words... no elections).

    That's my simple oversimplification.
     
  9. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    ONE Israel, or one big crater.


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  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    See, that's typical Nazi philosophy and deeply flawed thinking on your behalf. This idea that you can "kill all the terrorists" is ridiculous, because Israel's brutality and murder campaigns only fuel this radicalism you speak of, creating more terrorists and more people who see no purpose in life other than to be martyrs. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this. Yet, because of your hate for Muslims, you are advocating even more of the same thing that has contributed to this radicalization in the first place.
     
  11. BraveSirRubin

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    Yes, I realize this, which is why peace will probably never be possible.

    The only real option is to merely make them too damn scared to attack Israel. When every Israeli death equals 100 Hamas deaths they'll think twice.
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Unlike Americans and Israelis, the Palestinians do not fear death. I thought you knew this. That is why the idea of "killing all the terrorists" is simply ludicrous.

    And what in your mind justifies this idea that somehow the life of an Israeli is worth more than the life of a Palestinian? See, that is the sort of rhetoric I find to be especially disturbing.

    The children of Gaza do not deserve what is being unleashed on them, all because of a couple primative rockets launched into Israel by a handful of rag-tag radicals.

    Perhaps if more people were to actually address what prompted the firing of these rockets in the first place, then there could be talk of REAL solutions.
     
  13. BraveSirRubin

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    Everyone is afraid of death. Saying otherwise is pointless.

    The life of one Israeli civilian is worth more than the lives of a million Hamas terrorists, just like the life of one Palestinian civilian is worth more than the lives of a million Hamas terrorists.

    The children of Gaza do not deserve this. Blame their government for launching the rockets.
     
  14. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Home-made doesn't mean non-lethal.

    Hamas has launched over 3000 rockets/mortars in 2008 alone.(Before the War they averaged 200 a day, they still avg. 70 a day)

    Handful ? Try 20,000+

    Blockade, but what prompted that.......it goes back a lot farther than that.
     
  15. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    Funny that you call us racist and then you pretend that Palestinians are some kind of homogenous mass of death obsessed crazies. What an absurd, racist stereotype.

    Hamas most certainly does fear death. That's why the flee the scene after firing rockets next to an apartment building, leaving civilians to face any possible counter strike. That's why they scatter like cockroaches when the IDF crosses the border.
     
  16. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    What do you expect from a guy who said, in one of my threads, that iran should be bombed to the ground?

    :rolleyes:
    yes, you sure do care about the defenseless kids and innocent people.
     
  17. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    I was being fictitious, dumbass.
     
  18. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Looks like people are having a hard time getting out of Gaza. A couple hundred foreigners tried to pass through the Erez Crossing, but are not able to today. The terminal is closed, and there was some kind of suspicious blockade in the street that forced buses to turn around. A number of journalists are stuck in Gaza.

    I heard the total number of Palestinian civilian deaths is over 500 according to a reporter for English Al-Jazeera inside Gaza right now.

    The communications services are down, people have no electricity, no internet, cable, cell phone towers, etc. so it's proving to be extremely difficult to obtain accurate information for the people living there right now, Palestinian or Israeli.

    Israel is letting only about a handful journalists in.

    It's very difficult to figure out what exactly is going on, so reading reports from journalists actually in Gaza, watching live footage of what has been happening should give us a more accurate depiction of what is happening.
     
  19. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    If the Israelis don't allow them in, what can you expect?

    http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/12/30-1
     
  20. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I was referring mostly to the extremists. Do I really need to explain myself? I think most people know who I was referring to. The thing is, though, it's not that Palestinians are barbaric people (and certainly not because of their ethnicity, as you tried to imply). However, try putting yourself in the shoes of a Palestinian and you probably wouldn't care much about dying, either.
     
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