It's the END OF THE WORLD!!!!!

Yes, I believe in God and God is not fantasy.

Yeah, we're outnumbered by them, but what have insects done that can compare to the advances in technology we've made?

 

Even though I don't particularly think it'll happen, if the sun did die we'd die too, right? If the sun doesn't die, I see our species as being stable enough to expand our species to other planets. If we are around millions of years from now, I'm sure we'll have found other planets that will allow us to populate amongst it.

 

well i love how u believe in something woth no evidence yet refuse to believe in stuff with alotta evidence

humans so dominant so special yet we threatten ou own existence with our infinate stupidity we master technology then allow technology to master us we cant live without it any more
and its our own technokogy that threattens our lives

our dependence on cars right now could spell global starvatiojn gooo humans were so special..
our dependence on drugs means a simple germ can kill us all..
our dependence on shelter clothes fire will ensure our demise from a simple climate change..
our arogance ..believing we are the indestructable king of all creatuion that arogence will destroy us

insects outnumber us they are also humble and know theyre place

our place is to feed them..we are not domminant at all we are only arogent

 

When you learn to read and learn proper grammar like me, then I'll bother to actually read whatever you're trying to say.

Btw, God exists.

 

This looks less like the "alotta evidence" you hinted at and more like vapid scaremongering and hand-wringing. There are a lot of cans and coulds in there which, if I used them in an essay, would get me knocked down a grade for being wishy-washy.

Also it's frankly infantile to insist that God doesn't exist just because someone can't prove that He does. I don't believe in God either, but there's never any need to be a Dawkins-nazi about it.

 

Well, until we develop fast(er) than light travel then I doubt we'll be doing much colonisation of other planets. It's possible we could escape something that'd cause the end of the human race. But I dunno how long we'd last after that. Nowts gonna happen in our or even our great grandchildrens lifetimes, but maybe after then *shrugs*

 

Meh this thread really doesn't need to turn into "creationism vs. evolution".

I agree with Finnaz that we're not going to survive until we can travel at the speed of light. I mean when we destroy the planet. Maybe we'll learn before that happens. Living on mars would be lame. Nothing like good ol' earth. I think Mars was once like Earth, but the core of the planet went cold and it dried up, lost it's atmosphere and died. What if there were other beings like us who possibly destroyed the planet? Ah thinking about the grand possibilities.

 

See, "destroyed", as you're talking about it, is a very relative term. It's all about living conditions. Does the world end just because we can't live on it anymore?

 

How long would it take for faster than light traveling capabilities to be met?

 

Who knows. It's an incredible speed (186,000 miles a second) that even if we could travel at, we'd be crushed by the gravity forces.

And what I mean by destroy is that we're probably going to ruin the ecosystem (by destroying it with machines and making places for buildings and killing off species) and ruin the atmosphere with the burning of various fuels and chemicals or just releasing things into the atmosphere what will eat away at it. Ozone layer and all that stuff.

 

FTL travel is, by our current understanding of the laws of physics, impossible. Makes sense that there would BE a universal maximum speed, as I understand physics.

 

Yeah, we'll blow ourselves up. Or something like a virus will rapidly wipe us out. It's sad that it could all end anytime.

 

So you don't believe in anyhtng based in science because its all theories? Well, the next time u get suck, just remember the germ theory is only a theory, and you can tell the Japenese in Hiroshima that nuclear theory is just a theory. Supernovas are not impossible and have happened before. But even if it was was impossible science doesnt say that our sun will ever become a supernova. The sun will explode in about 500 million years from now or so. So, there will eventually be an end to life on earth, it may even be before the sun exlodes, but thats not the end of "the world". The world is ALOT bigger then the earth, u know like the millions opf stars and planets and shit, there part of the world too.

 

So then on what basis do you believe in god? It seems to me, from reading several of your posts, that your understanding of the universe is hung up on the existence of god. You find it impossible to accept much more rational theories, which have bases in observable phenomenon and empirical science, because it contradicts an abstract notion of god you hold that is utterly unprovable. You have an inquisitive mind, you ask questions which is a healthy beginning. I think if you were to question the faith-based certainties you, like so many people, take for granted, go beyond what is written in scripture, you’ll gain a much deeper understanding of the universe....

 

In 2769 all will be fine, I assure you; because 2769 has already happened.

 

You can't see the wind, but you know its there. You can see the effect it has on other things.

 

Hey, assface, I didn't say everything science based is just a theory.

 

That's not much of a counter-argument since I'm not making the untenable claim that one should only believe in the things one can see. Wind can be felt, measured, tested, predicted. There are many things that can be proven to exist that primary human sensory capacity cannot perceive. However all hypotheses should be tested rigorously for factual scientific evidence to support them and evidence that might falsify them. To fail to do so is to take something on blind faith, which is much shakier ground to stand on, no matter the limitations of scientific method....

 

Oh mannnnn. This thread is starting to go downhill. Everyone isn;t reading everyone else's posts and it's causing misconceptions.

I'd have to say for a Christian, ChrisGriffin doesn't seem like the typical crazy Christian dude. =P I can't really word that better but you get the point, lol.

 

I'll let the "we are the smartest beings to have walked this planet" pass, except to say that you might be looking for a career as a standup comedian.

Your "anything science based is just a theory" statement shows that you haven't taken any science courses yet, or if you did, you skipped class the day they discussed scientific method. Experimental design is carefully crafted to ensure that any given experiment can be confirmed and repeated by independent observers. If it cannot be confirmed or repeated, chances are low that an experimental result will be believed or even seriously considered by the relevant members of the scientific community.

As for the death of our planet, let me quote William Kaufmann, "Universe, 3rd edition", W.H. Freeman and Company, New York, 1991, p. 417:

The Sun will take about 5 billion years more to finish converting hydrogen into helium at its core. As the Sun's core contracts, its atmosphere will expand to envelop first Mercury, then Venus, and finally our own planet. The red-giant Sun will swell to a diameter of about 1 AU, and its surface temperature will decline to about 3500 K. Although the Sun's surface temperature will be much lower than it is today, the Sun will be so huge that its luminosity will be much greater than today.
As a full-fledged red giant, our star will shine with the brightness of 2000 [of today's] Suns. Some of the inner planets will be vaporized, and the thick atmospheres of the outer planets will boil away to reveal tiny, rocky cores. Thus in its later years the aging Sun will destroy the planets that have accompanied it since its birth.
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William Kaufmann is a professor of Physics (as at 1991) at San Diego State University, California, USA. You don't get to be a physics professor by writing papers about how to administer a volleyball program...

For an advanced treatment of stellar evolution see Donald Clayton's book, "Principles of Stellar Evolution and Nucleosynthesis". You will need at least second year college calculus to follow this one.