It's 2025.... are we still sleeping?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Pressed_Rat, Dec 8, 2025 at 8:29 PM.

  1. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    You were an insulting jerk here years ago and it appears even after taking some years off---you have returned with the familiar MO we so remember you for. Welcome back.:laughing:
     
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  2. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    No problem Rat.
    Don't worry about offending me, I just go with the flow and I realize how abrasive I sound at times.

    We're just having fun and talking things over. :)
     
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  3. Toker

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    Scientists have been worried about pandemics for decades. That's why the US funded the research studying viruses jumping from one species to the next.

    The Gates Foundation has prioritized research into diseases since it was founded.

    The fact that a deadly virus escaped a facility in China was bound to happen. So preparing for that didn't require a crystal ball.

    I'm sure China didn't intentionally release a virus on its own people, especially without a vaccine or antidote.

    So keep Occam's razor in mind when weighing conspiracy theories. Usually the most obvious cause is the real one, not some vast secret conspiracy.
     
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  4. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ California Tripper Administrator

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    I am happy Pressed Rat is back, he sparks some interesting conversations!

    And yes, the elite are happy, getting richer than ever, what with a massive tax cut in their favor..and massive reductions is programs that help the underprivileged. It's a return to the gilded age, as seen in the decorations all over the white house (not to mention the ballroom).

    I do wonder if all the gold trim in the oval office is really gold, or just cheap plastic like you would see in Las Vegas.
     
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  5. Toker

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    I found the AP to be unreliable these days. Reuters is a better source.

    BBC, unless you're British and hate them, is a good source.

    NPR always a good listen.

    The Guardian is The #1 source of unbiased info about the US and the world. Their in-depth reporting is now better than the Washington Post which is now a mouthpiece for billionaires.

    Also a great source is France 24, as well as Euronews.

    It's funny how these foreign news agencies report stories about the US that never show up in the US. That's why Europeans are so much better informed about America and the world than your average American.
     
  6. scratcho

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  7. Twogigahz

    Twogigahz Senior Member

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    Oh, please. How could anyone wipe out our power grid that's pretty much been around since the 1950's, just strung willy nilly unsecured across the countryside....next you're going to say there will be water and gas calamities from all those cast iron pipes we put in the ground for as long or longer... What?? Our railroads are out dated just because 50% of the track went down before 1940, using 1860's technology? Wood and spikes....
     
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  8. Mountain Valley Wolf

    Mountain Valley Wolf Senior Member

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    Such members of the elite will have a rude awakening if they push the US economy to the tipping point that I spoke of. When money and every other medium of exchange and symbol of wealth loses all value, they will have nothing to justify their leadership, and they will find that survival is just as difficult for them as for the people they enslaved.

    We can only hope that something will stop them before it gets that far. In the meantime, my advice is to move wealth offshore. In fact, if my family still all lived under one roof, we would be out of here. But being near kids and grandchildren is more important to us than leaving.

    Maintain economic freedom, keep a low profile, and find ways of feeding off of corporate wealth like a vampire--where you take without providing any return. I don't know how to do this legally except through the stock market. But I am certainly open to ideas! There are risks, they could make it difficult to access your wealth. (Hard assets however, could be physically in your possession, but owned by an offshore trust. If you sold it, you would sell it in the name of the offshore trust, but now the money is in your hands.) You would want your offshore accounts to be easily transferrable into other currencies, and for this, you'd certainly want to have an understanding of markets, or reading charts. Don't just hold it in gold and believe that gold will protect the value. If the dollar were to collapse, gold might possibly rise up, but there is no guarantee, and eventually gold will fall, so you will want to sell at that point. You have to learn how to chart.
     
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  9. Reverend Rick H

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    I definitely go along with the argument that the elite would do away with what they see as useless minions.
    You know the way I see them? Remember that scene from the remake of War of the Worlds where the aliens are taking humans onboard and slaughtering them for food? The elite are just like that.
    Yup, there could be a massive cyber event or even another manufactured virus. At present they are dividing the world with hate putting people against people to maintain their grip and spoon feed us with the media they own and control.
    I can't wait for the Spiritual Revolution
     
  10. scratcho

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    Any movement towards the spiritual may affect some in certain ways , but those ways will not--can not --affect "those who rule" because no movement means anything to them other than power over all and the acquiring of riches at all costs to whomever pays the price. Peace be damned.

    I think most of humanity basically wants a home of some kind, a safe place to raise offspring, an equitable legal system, protection from the lawless and a way to make money. There is and IMO , has always been a certain set of humans for which there is no amount of gaining power--no amount of money gathering--by any and all means deemed necessary by them--- that continue to keep different populations of the world stirred up and indulging in the most heinous of crimes against against those who want the former -----and mirror opposites that desire the latter for themselves. Have a nice day. :cool:
     
  11. Mountain Valley Wolf

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    I have to say though, I've always had trouble with the term 'Globalist.'

    I've always considered myself a globalist because I am very much for the globalization of economies and cultures. In my own small way, I was a part of the rise of economic globalism----for example, as a member of the American Chamber of Commerce, Japan, in the 1980's we helped open up the Japanese market to American companies by showing them that they were arrogantly trying to sell products for Americans that did not fit Japanese tastes or needs. Every company we helped, that were claiming the markets were closed to them, adopted their product to the Japanese market and discovered the markets opened right up to them. I've told the story many times how in the spring of 1988, I met Donald Trump, briefly, after I had made a presentation to American Fund Managers and analysts about the Japanese market on a Trump property, and most of the 1 or 2 minute interaction was of him trying to get me to agree that we needed high tariffs on Japan, and me trying to explain, before he brushed me off, how damaging tariffs are.

    From what I get from this usage of globalist is that it refers to neoliberals and neoconservatives that are still of a colonial mindset. I suspect that it has its roots in the problem that business owners will close factories here and move them overseas. Unfortunately, that is a cold blooded reality of economics that there comes a time when it just does not make sense to manufacture certain goods in the land where manufacturing of that good once prospered.

    Its like my grandfather. He aspired to be the best buggy whip maker in all of the land. His whips were top quality, and hard to beat (but easy to beat with). But then when cars took over the roads, his market dried up. He just couldn't sell buggy whips anymore. So he was forced to get into leather, and began manufacturing leather goods to go with the buggy whips, and chains, and straps, and he got into all sorts of sexual perversions. (Ok, I just made that up about my grandfather----he was a civil engineer. But do you see my point?)

    I assume that globalist also refers to the idea of a world government. But the idea of a global government is silly to me. It would be literally impossible to run the world from one government.

    And what is the opposite of a globalist? An isolationist? Because it seems to me that the people who use the term also push for isolationism. Isolationism has never ever done well for a country. It was isolationism that fueled the Great Depression. It is a populist reactionary strategy, usually rooted in racism or ignorance, that appears when people feel threatened by outsiders. But once it grabs hold of an economy, such as what is happening in the US today, it only pulls the economy down.

    The world, thanks to technology, is getting smaller. I can go online and buy things directly from anywhere in the world. For years I could fly to London cheaper than I could fly to Florida (from Colorado), and once in London, it was relatively cheap to travel anywhere in Europe. I can go online and read foreign newspapers directly (I read Japanese, for example, and Chinese to an extent, and can struggle through a few other languages, but then there is almost always an English version (And Philippine newspapers are often in English)). I can listen to radio stations and watch TV programs from just about anywhere in the world, can even facetime with anyone anywhere in the world as long as they have internet. Globalization is a wonderful thing, and it should only get better as the technology advances.
     
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  12. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Please, don't wake me
    No, don't shake me
    Leave me where I am
    I'm only sleeping

     
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