It would be a great thing if all the communists were wiped out overnight

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  1. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    The Tri-State area of New York City, North Jersey & Connecticut is one large economic unit joined together by its roads & bridges, and mass transit. They use each others parks airports and port facilities. Companies will move between the States, yet retain their customers and employees. People here will "shop" jurisdictions for tax rates and other features. States are jealous to lose residents or companies to "Raids" by neighboring states based on more favorable legal and taxation issues. So far this has served as a sort of check on abusive taxation by tri state politicians.
    Taxes are higher here than in the hinterlands.
     
  2. Walleye

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    I spent 30 years in the Tri-state area, many of them as a business owner. I can give you a list of at least 10 reasons not to be in business in any of those states. The banking industry moved back offices to Stamford and Jersey, starting in the '80s...then they moved them to Charlotte and Greenville. It used to be that Westchester County had the most Fortune 500 HQs than any other county. I haven't heard of major companies moving to other Tri-state states in a long time. I'm always seeing them moving out of the region.
     
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  3. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    A guy from NJ got a license to dispose of hazardous waste, then he got a license to distribute heating oil, and promptly killed any number of people, because he worked for the Mafia. After spending a ridiculous time in prison for his crime, he moved to Philidelphia and did it all over again. The states are no less cutthroat with each other than the federal government.
     
  4. Toker

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    Unfortunately, today you can no longer criticize the American president... Ask Stephen Colbert! The US is a fascist state now.
     
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  5. Walleye

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    Grow up. CBS was losing $40 million a year on Colbert. Maybe the question should be why didn't they do it sooner? Or, maybe it should be considered as "In kind" contribution to the campaigns he supports? Commercial "Free speech" is not guaranteed by the Constitution. Colbert can speak freely on any platform he can find. What a juvenile comment.
     
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  6. Toker

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    It's not
    It's called satire which is comedy, which is free speech. And yes comedians get paid if they're good. And yes, commercial free speech was deemed legal by the Supreme Court in case you haven't noticed, companies are people now, so get used to it.

    Faux News is nothing but commercial free speech (not news), unfortunately it's not funny at all, the fascist lies are meant to go Ka-ching, Ka-ching as they con naive, brainwashed middle America.
     
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  7. Walleye

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    I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were so intellectually challenged. I'll say it more slowly. There is individual free speech to which we all have a right and can express it anywhere we happen to be (with very few restrictions). I respect your right to free speech and I respect your right to posses and present opinions that differ from mine. Of course commercial free speech is permissible under the Constitution but it isn't guaranteed. You (royal "You") don't have a right to express your opinions on CBS, Fox or BET's airwaves. Colbert can speak freely where ever he has an opportunity to do so. CBS is no longer one of those places. Fox News (which I loathe), CNN, ABC, MSNBC and all the other news outlets are pumping out commercial propaganda.

    As far as "Fascists," I don't think you know the actual definition of that word.
     
  8. Toker

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    So why does Trump and MAGA scream about not having free speech and getting CANCELLED, when Trump himself with help is cancelling not just Colbert, but the Dept of education, Science research, vaccine programs, programs for minorities, even suicide hotlines.

    Peddle your BULLSHIT where stupid people might actually give you credibility. You won't get that around here, troll. We too WOKE for you and your sad endless distractions.

    Lol, I defined fascism on the Internet first, ages ago. Controlling the media and the narrative is essential to fascism.
     
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  9. Walleye

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    Give me a break. Your intellectual dishonesty knows no bounds. Please cite actual incidences of what you allege or STFU. We have virtually infinite space for your citations. Let's deal in facts rather than your emotional caldron of fantasies. I'll wait with bated breath.

    I'm not supporting or promoting Trump or MAGA, I'm calling you out on your BS.

    "Woke" is double speak for "Retard."
     
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  10. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    First of all let's be civil with each other.

    Second, the $40 million dollar figure can't, and hasn't been confirmed.
    Third, CBS never asked any of Colbert's staff to take pay cuts, never looked into moving his time slot, and never looked into reducing production costs.
    Fourth, CBS had no trouble paying the $15 million dollar blackmail fee demanded by Trump over 60 Minutes.
    Fifth, Skydance, owned by David Ellison, son of GOP and Trump backer Larry Ellison (fourth richest man in the world), is looking to buy Paramount in an $8.4 billion merger, but needs Trump's FCC approval. Ellison has ties to Marco Rubio, Donald Trump, Tim Scott, Sean Hannity, Lindsey Graham, Trump's personal attorney Jay Sekulow, and True the Vote's attorney Jay Sekulow.
    The merger has raised concerns over China's investment in Skydance,
    Sixth, Trump himself reports that Skydance will give him, free of charge, $20 million dollars
    Let's see 20 plus 15 equals what? 35 million Paramount could have saved outright.
    Seventh, timing.
    The timing of this announcement, either purposely or otherwise, (I believe purposely) sends a clear message...criticize the MAGA crowd and we're coming after you. And they did and will do more of in the future. Trump is known for intimidation and frivolous lawsuits that he extends by injecting huge amounts of money in in an effort to bankrupt defendants into submission.

    In short the whole deal stinks to hill heaven.
     
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  11. MeAgain

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    Now free speech.

    The media and journalist are guaranteed free speech by the First Amendment in the same way, or greater, as it protects the rights of the individual.
    Freedom of the press in the United States is legally protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
    The right to free speech by the media and corporations has been upheld in Near v. Minnesota, New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti, Landmark Communications v. Virginia, Richmond Newspaper v. Virginia, and Globe Newspaper Co. v. Superior Court and others.

    In fact the it is argued that the1st gives explicit protection to the press beyond that of the average citizen,
     
  12. Walleye

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    First, Colbert is an entertainer not a member of the press. Considering him "Press" is laughable and kills most of the rest of your points.

    Second, all your points about Trump would seem to indicate that you believe that two "Wrongs" make a "Right." If that is the case, we'll never see eye to eye.

    Third, CBS is supposed to be a business run first and foremost for the benefit of its shareholders (its owners). Management's job is to create shareholder value while behaving within the law.
     
  13. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Colbert presents comedy in the form of parody, and political satire. Comedy, parody, and political satire are all covered by the First.
    Why Is Parody Protected Under the First Amendment?
    Freedom of Speech – Why Satire Is Protected
    I don't know what you're referring to in relation to Trump.
    Could you explain?

    CBS is a private corporation and they must obey the law, I agree.
    So what?
    I'm not talking about CBS, per se, I'm talking about Trump's interference with CBS's right to broadcast whatever they wish within their First Amendment rights.
    If you think Trump had no hand in the firing of Colbert, that's your opinion.
    If you think Trump had a legitimate court case in respect to 60 minutes, that's your opinion. It certainly wasn't the opinion of most legal scholars.
    For ‘60 Minutes,’ a Humbling Moment at an Uneasy Time for Press Freedom
    Trump is chipping away at the First by legal intimidation through frivolous law suits such as the CBS, ABC, Stephanopoulos case.

    Trump has sued ABC, CBS, CNN, The Chicago Tribune, Warner Books, New York Daily News, The Hollywood Reporter, The New York Times, The Guardian, Reuters, The Daily Mail, the Miami Herald, MSNBC, CNBC, Forbes, Axios, Deadline Hollywood, Benzinga, MarketWatch, The Daily Beast, Gizmodo, Mediaite, Salon, Newsweek, the Des Moines Register, and Simon and Schuster; that I know of....

    For some reason FOX Entertainment is not on the list.

    As of 2020:
    And it has just gotten worse.

     
  14. Walleye

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    Grow up, Opie. Shuck and jive on all the issues. If you'd like to debate, I'm game. If you want to deflect, deceive and present false arguments, I've got better things to do.
     
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  15. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Is that it?
    Shuck and jive?

    Can't respond to the fact that the First addresses parody, and political satire?
    Can't explain what you mean about two wrongs?
    Can't respond to Trump's lawsuits and attacks on the media?

    All you can do is say grow up?
    Use of that phrase isn't productive in a debate, it only shows that you have run out of legitimate arguments; and it's disrespectful, it seems to indicate that you are "more of an adult" with better thinking skills than I have...without offering any counter arguments to my points at all.

    It's a phrase conmanly used on playgrounds, not in debates.
     
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  16. Walleye

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    I never said it did not. However, you clearly don't understand the difference between private and commercial "Free Speech." So a further discussion is pointless.

    I feel for you that your parents didn't teach you this.

    The lawsuits aren't about censoring the media from reporting actual facts.

    Sorry. It is a kneejerk reaction to hearing such infantile nonsense.

    I agree with you.

    If you say so.
     
  17. MeAgain

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    Thanks for replying. Thinking on my post I was afraid I was being infantile myself.

    Now, what don't I understand is what you are saying about the difference between private and commercial "Free Speech?"
    As I understand it private speech is speech between two or more private individuals, that is, not public speech.
    In other words as I understand it, private speech would be when you and I talk over something with each other on our back porch.

    Public speech is a conversation, or parody, etc., of a public concern, a legitimate news interest.

    Commercial speech involves a commercial transaction that, "relates solely to the speaker’s and the audience’s economic interests." This would basically be forms of advertisement for solely monetary gain sans a legitimate news interest.
    One example given is that the government can prohibit the..."broadcast(ing) of lottery advertisements by a broadcaster in a state that prohibits lotteries, while allowing broadcast of such ads by stations in states that sponsor lotteries." ~ Cornell Law School

    Now, I agree that Colbert's show does not engage in private conversation, but are you claiming that it is not public speech regarding public concerns such as politics?
    Are you suggesting The Late Show is some form of advertising for a specific commercial product sans a legitimate news interest?
    Are you claiming that all parody and satire are subject to governmental regulation?
     
  18. MeAgain

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    "Two wrongs don't make a right." Yes my parents taught me that.
    What I am asking is what two wrongs and what right are you talking about?
     
  19. MeAgain

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    You will have to specify which law suit(s) you are talking about.
    Are you suggesting that Trump does not have a purpose in attacking the media, he's not trying to suppress the reporting of actual facts?
     
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