It feels like having a God's cell number :)

Well, this is a great post and there is not much more to say after Shapeshifter.
Let me rather give you my example.
Definitly it's much more easier to kill the logic with bigger dose of lsd. But nobody can tell you are you ready for a bigger dose or not. That is something that you know from deep inside yourself. When you take it there is no changing of your mind or regrets.I was always the one planning before we met with people will I take this much or that much and it was never according to my plans. Always pushing the feeling and going with the logic. Thats what we intend to do, to dwell constantly in the past or future with our minds but never in the now moment.
When it was the time to try dmt while on acid before that I was pretty sure I'll do it while acid is going down. It was just my fear to be able to stay in control all the time cause the kid is in the other room. Well when it was the peak of acid I realized that that I was ridiciliuos and that it won't make any difference is it now or in a 6 hours time. So I did it. Taking the 2 full puffs. By the time that Shapeshifter was offering me the third puff I was not able to hear him at all not to mention seeing the pipe or even knowing who am I. Well he said I said no which I don't remember but as the dmt was coming on I was asked (not really by the words) am I ready to let go of this life and everything I know with the possibility of even never coming back to it. Only the moment I said yes (mentally of course not words) I was taken straight to the source. Only than I new that's God or Creator or however you call it and how he is you. All this things with dmt are happening in just fragments of second. With lsd you can be stuck in that middle for hours even the whole trip if you don't know how to recognise where you are holding your self and how to let go. For me the hardes one was to let go of my family and a child and to realize that I don't have to be always there.
With dmt it's quick and easier. I was gliding nicely with lsd not even knowing that my family is still my weak point thinking that I already went over that matter but only dmt led me to this barrier that I made for myself knot even knowing it how deeply I made it. So I hope somebody will find himself in this example and it might help.

 

^^^
Nice having you back hahaha

 

I would perhaps suggest that the drug was working with the naturalistic human characteristic of religious belief. I've had experiences where I've felt truly in the presence of a god like figure, especially on drugs... but it hasn't in the slightest shaken my stance of atheism that deviates from my own rationale. Not to say that these experiences are in any way worthless or misleading or wrong, not at all... yet neither do they sway me to belief. It's something else.

 

Well here's the thing Exar, God is not a figure, God is figure itself. God is not in your presence, God is presence itself. God is not a fragment of your mental creative abilities to manipulate gross matter into indefinite maliable imaginative formulations that leave you with a 'belief', God is your awareness of the fact that you are aware of the fact that you are aware of the fact that you are aware of the......and so on. There is no comprehension of God and a belief in God is a state of not knowing but thinking that you know, which is a termination process, a negation process in itself. But what does negation lead to eventually? Positivity, for in order to have something be deemed as positive, first all else opposed must be deemed negative. Being that God can not be comprehened in any totality whatsoever, there will never be a coming to terms with God so long as a thirst for understanding remains unquenched. Thought is empty, insubstantial, meaningless, and pointless, so are gross material objects, the perception of gross material objects, the mental processing of gross material objects, and the discrimination between gross material objects. And likewise, thought's regarding God are just as empty, as well as thought's against God. All equally empty, unproveable, formless, insubstantial, and both right and wrong at the same time. To say there is a God or say there is no God is in fact the same sentence when you look deeper into what you are saying, because your thought alone as to what God is not is the same as the thought as to what God is.
The reason the majority of people either believe in God or disbelieve in God, without direct attunement, without harmony, without hypocricy, without true knoweldge is because they are lost in the fantastical world of creative thought. It is said that in order for one to know God one must not only transcend the ego, the body, the mind and it's thoughts but one also must transcend awareness. We all have awareness, it is not ego, it is not mind, awareness is the cognitive function of perception, reception, discrimination and emanation or porjection to stick with the ...tionsism's. And in that, all awareness is the same exact thing, we all have the same awareness, even if it's tainted with being colour blind, tone deaf, etc. we are still aware of the fact that we are aware. And when you really look, I mean look with your heart and purpose of being and not with your eyes or your imagination, try and find the source of your, mine, and anyone else's awareness.
Where does it come from? What exactly is it? This is not something that can be done with mental speculation and concepts and forms and math's, this is something very profound and very much beyond even most mysiticm no matter how grand it may be. There are no staggering revelations because if you tap into it, you will have no isolated dualistic mind left with which to be staggered.
This is the Christ Consciousness, the Krishna Consciousness, the Buddha Consciousness, and so on to all the nameless and lonely enlightened masters who have ever blessed our planet with the gift of their presence. This Consciousness is the Oneness, the Intelligence which guides Om or the regenerative nature of, well, Nature. But no matter how far you trascend any level of awareness you can never reach the end because as long as your reaching, your not existing. Existing is not planning, existing is being, you dont have to be some enlightened sage or guru or saint, you just have to let go, and Im not talking about ego, Im talking about awareness which is an entirely different 'thing'.
Of course what Im saying is not the ultimate truth and you may feel free to openly insult me for my opinion, but I want to make it very clear to everyone that when you have mental contructions regarding what God is or is not, you are in fact entirely off the mark. Believe or disbelieve all you want, nobody takes devout atheists to be accomplished in anything but a process of negation that has not yet come to completion, and nobody takes devout believers to be accomplished in anything but a process of positivity that has not completed it's process of negativity.
Namaste.

 

with the hole sleep thing, what dose would you think it would take to keep you awake for 19 hours still tripping, laying in bed tripping for 8 hours before finnaly getting to sleep at the 19th hour. that happened to me, at the 12th hour i started getting worried when the walls were still breathingand moving around and i still saw rainbows coming out of my piss. and crazy colour kalidoscopes with my eyes open.

as for god lsd had showed me that i am god. there is no other god not in the terms that crappy religion makes out there to be. perhaps some form of higher power or consciosness maybe, but religion is what keeps the world at war.
we are the god of the existence inside our minds. i am god cause i can control anything i want to do. if thats not god than what?

there is no evidence in relation to any crappy religion. taking lsd opened my mind, and its really all just common sense. that god in relation to how religions make it out to be is bullshit.
i guess you could say now it angers me i am so strongly apposed of religion.
all war is pretty much cause of religion. i feel sorry for religios people. wasting their lives away. they think the same about me, but whatever. my mind tells me what to beleive, i dont belive things just cause my mum tried to make me beleive in god when i was young. i am strong enough to see things for me and belive what i want to beleive without being shoved into some shit.

and i beleive that even if their is a god, its not my fault that i dont belive. if god made me this way, we are all equall anyway. so i would go to heaven if there was one no matter what. there is no such thing as good, there is no such thing as evil. on the scheme of things. only what man creates in this little world of ours.

religion is merely for the weak minded. it was created by the government to control you. it was created to give you hope. humans are smart beings, we question our very existence, so to give them hope, and conformity it was created. to prevent them from being scared of death.
so i beleive those who beleive are weak in the mind. they are in denial as to the bulllshit because they want it to be real with all their little hearts.

just like when i was a kid and my friend tried to tell me santa wasnt real. no matter what he said i belived in santa. for a while.

so its no differnt.

 

ye, nice.

 

I don't understand you guys. You are trying to get around having to go to sleep? Let's analyze this

When you are tripping you are not physically functional, like sleeping.
When you are tripping you are claiming you "recharge", like sleep...except sleep is proven to be required.


Essentially....you are paying money for these drugs to get around sleep? And very possibly doing harm to your body in the mean time...so you dont have to SLEEP?

I'm sorry but I'm gonna stick to weed when I want some fun and sleep when i need to "connect to the source"

 

So true RELAYER, i feel ya. "When you have mental constructions regarding what God is or is not, you are in fact entirely off the mark." Yeah religion is the real devil. i heard even Buddhas have to sleep 3 hours but they are aware at the time. i think it might be possible for some monks living in caves not to sleep cause they dont have to deal with the real world unlike most Buddhas. The fact that reality is machine like is trippy and i dont comprehend it and i dont think anyone does. i experienced savikalpa samadhi on Sep. 5, 2000 it lasted 30-45min. and i was wide awake for 3 days and on the third night i wasnt tired at all but just figured i should go to bed. Since it was a kundalini awakening i figured i would focus on the OM and it exploded. Reality sounds like an infinitly loud engine. The experience felt like i was getting the electiric chair from god but the energy was pure bliss. It felt like i was experiencing all of eternity at once and constant. To be more realistic it was like experiencing your whole life at once and constantly. Imagine every orgasim you ever had put together plus everytime you where scared and everything else multiplied on each other. i heard one person mention Yoga Nidra, i have that book and i highly recommend it cause its the only book that describes pratyahara which is the key to enlightenment.

 

for real, relayer: I can always expect some good sprayage from ya, but that was probly the best commentary I've heard from you so far. thanks for posting brother.

 

sounds amazing! im making dmt right now, should be done in about a week or so. ill probably just try dmt the first time, then maybe the next time on lsd or shrooms. can't wait!

 

A beautiful experience! It sounds much like my own first Om encounter, now I get uncomfortable during trips if the refrigerator stops humming :tongue:
I remember it clear as day, and I was on mushrooms so I never took it as a kundalini awakening, but I now realize that it definitley was. Pure samadhi, the best of the samadhis Ive ever had. I too felt like I touched eternity and my memories were like access files I could tap into and out of, and live in, for eternity (someday, not then or now because it was like yours, savikalpa). Though this is how it went down.
I was laying in my bed with my son in my arms, tripping out on an 8th of mushrooms. I remember opening my eyes and looking at my right hand and there were bubbles everywhere floating down from the window, and one landed in the palm of my hand. I looked into it and I was sort of, absorbed by this sound bubble? And while in there I realized that I had gone into a part of God and She was telling me "Your about to find me" but it was like a running match. Well, I found Her and I grabbed Her and I demanded to know what this all is, and suddenly I was back in my bed again, listening to Om so loudly that it almost hurt. Then I sat back and watched time go in reverse and suck back into itself, pause, then explode and the universe danced back into life and as the peices of my room reassembled themselves, the buzzing was so profoundly shaking reality that I broke down into tears for the rest of the night :tongue:
I was living in a south Philly ghetto at the time, and felt like running around half naked shouting to everyone "Wake up! God is Love!" at 3am
Namaste
And thank you burnabowl

 

dude how on earth do you guys experience stuff like this?

im doing something wrong lol.

 

dood.

wtf. that made me smile lol.

 

Well the thing is Josh, we are both describing what is partial Kundalini awakening. This is when the energy that created you is unrooted from the base of your spine and flushes upwards to above your head, the 'crown', and joins God, so the connection is complete. Only for most of us who dont perform yoga sadhana (a sort of, prescribed practice method for tapping into this energy), the Kundalini awakening happens out of nowhere and typically unexpectadly, and doesnt last forever as it does for the master's who have forced there returning.
It's basically very simple, you just meditate on Kundalini, and She will start to transcend the lower chakras. The more you practice, the closer you get.
She is the female part of your creation and sustainment, She is mother Nature within you, and She is manifesting your awareness of the cosmos. God as Shiva, the male part of creation, is sperated from Her because She has descended into this physical universe, so it is up to you to bring the two back together and do away with the dualistic mentality.
Keep in mind however this is all just names as descriptions to describe something that can only be experienced directly. If you are interested I can point you to a member here, Yogi Bhairavaji, who wrote a book on this subject and explains his own experience with the sadhana required and the eventual awakening.
Namaste

 

yeah man, that would be cool to listen to what he has to say.

 

Its been almost 3 years from this trip but the memories and the feelings are still same strenght, like it happened an hour ago.

I can still say, if you are to try DMT or benefit fully from its potential, combine it with strong dose of LSD, and take DMT when its LSD peak (1,5 - 2 hour mark). This is the proof of it, not just because of easier letting go, but because of remebering the whole trip.
I saw plenty of people having troubles remembering what they expirienced, this should help you.

 

wadup Shifter. My friend and I were just discussing this. Our first trip together is sitting just behind the highly convincing but flimsy veil of our identities, like a jar of light that can be accessed easily by mentally opening the lid, even though I often purposefully keep it sealed shut for whatever reason. For him he didn't even remember why he had tripped or the events leading up to it, only emerging from the forest after the fact. Simply touching that place jogs the memory even better than consulting trip reports. Those act as good carriers but I can't re-deliver the experience of it unless I just go back inside myself. There's many instances to choose from, but it always seems to be the first trip that is re-manifested the most.

 

Yeah, LSD/DMT combos are almost impossible to forget. i also find LSD trips to permanently etch themselves (sometimes in a disturbingly eidetic manner) into my memory. Remember DMT trips is a skill it has taken me a very long time to cultivate and it still doesn't work every time. So, the LSD/DMT combo will definately allow you full memory of what the DMT has to offer.

Incredibly STRONG combo, i cannot stress enough. Not for everyone. Not for every LSD trip IMHO.

 

My friend said that his first LSD trip was etched into his mind like glass

i love the razor sharp lucidity and yet effortless fluidity of that state

 

Yes. i love the sharpness too. But sometimes it's too sharp, it's even given me really sharp chest pains once. Don't know what that was about.