Israeli Bombing of Lebanon

Discussion in 'Protest' started by DQ Veg, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    This is truly shocking. There won't be a cease fire until the reason for the war is addressed? Who would have thought? And if your precious Hezballa loved Lebanon's Arab citizens so much, why not just return the soldiers? It's Hezballa that's to blame for the destruction that's taking place now, not Israel.
     
  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    What about the three Hezbollah captives of Israel that were supposed to be released previously? It's easy to be holier than though when you are spewing back sound bits.
     
  3. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    duplicate post Please delete.
     
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    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    shaggie Senior Member

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    Yeah. It's all justified, as long as we aren't taking embryos that would have been destroyed anyway and using them for research. Thank God we aren't doing anything unethical in all of this conflict.

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  6. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Oh but those embryos are protected by our evangelical President, he knows his priorities. Perhaps he's waging his own little Christian Jihad and the rest of us have gotten sucked in. I think the only lives that matter to him are those that attend his church. Sad day for America when that can be said for our President.
     
  7. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    Gardener - repeat after me - Hezbolla is a known terrorist orginazation. They do not have rights. Israel is a recognized State. Their citizens deserve protection at all costs. See the difference? To compare Hezbollah captives to soldiers is totally moronic.

     
  8. MichaelByrd1967

    MichaelByrd1967 Garcia Wannabe

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    Well Kids, in foresight, it looks like World War III is starting to take effect... So what are we hippies gonna do about it? I'm one for going out into the streets of major cities and protesting this shit! How 'bout you guys?
     
  9. DQ Veg

    DQ Veg JUSTYNA'S TIGER

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    Israel repeatedly bombed the UN Peacekeeping post in South Lebanon until it was destroyed, even though there was no Hezbollah firing coming from that area, the post was clearly marked, and was well known to the Israelis.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/26/world/26cnd-nations.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
    And to those people (you know who you are) that say I am posting info from 'anti-Semitic sites', the New York Times, where this news report comes from, happens to be owned and operated by pro-Israeli Jews. I'd hardly think they could be considered to be 'anti-Semitic.'
     
  10. DQ Veg

    DQ Veg JUSTYNA'S TIGER

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    Refugee kids a couple days ago in Jounieh. Ideoteque photographed these kids when she went to help the refugees near her home town. Beautiful kids, so many of whom have lost their homes to to Israeli bombing.
     
  11. KParker730

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    Hizbollah would never have existed if it werent for Israels violent tendencies. And why do their citizens deserve protection at all costs and not lebanons?
     
  12. DQ Veg

    DQ Veg JUSTYNA'S TIGER

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    Exactly. And international law and the norms of morality don't say that anyone deserves protection 'at all costs'. Unless the norms of international law are followed, which Israel has deliberately ignored, then its response becomes unjustified and immoral. I've chronicled enough of that here to not need to repeat myself.

    To destroy the civilian infrastructure of a country, to deliberately target civilians, including those escaping the destruction of their villages, even ambualnces, as well as UN preacekeeping posts, are all blatant violations of international law and basic morality.

    Look at it this way: if Israel wasn't America's absolutely unquestioned ally, the US would be crying for the prosecution of the people that did these things for war crimes. As it is, the US is helping Israel do it!
     
  13. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    People in DC need to think these issues through before making decisions based on an ideological fervor. A year ago Bush and others were calling for the complete and immediate withdrawal of Syria from Lebanon in the name of 'democracy'. Now Hezbollah is running the show over there. Bush and Israel also bombed Arafat's compound and ran him out of office in the name of democracy and now Hamas is running the show over there. Bush overthrew the Iraqi government in the name of democracy and now it's a free-for-all over there too. How much more of this do people want?

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  14. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    When we give a pass to Israel when they kill UN peacekeepers, we tell them anything they want to do is alright with us. Why is it the rest of the world are terrorists? How many of the UN peacekeepers have been killed by the Hezbollah?

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2235340

    Reminds me of the journalists that were killed during the US strike on Iraq. Remember that?

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/oct2005/sold-o21.shtml

    Seems that whenever these powerful people are made uncomfortable they accidentally kill innocent people.
     
  15. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    They are beautiful kids, and they deserve to be able to live in their homes without this sort of crap going on.
     
  16. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Known or labeled by whom? And they have elected ministers to the Lebanon government (a democratic government). Why shouldn't they have rights? From where I sit Hezbollah are soldiers and a military force which should be acknowledged and accepted by the world. And I feel the same way about Hamas. I personally feel Arafat was an exceptional man, fighting for the rights and acceptance of the Arab peoples. He also worked for peace when many in Israel were celebrating and promoting the assasination of Rabin.
     
  17. questing400

    questing400 Senior Member

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    I never said the citizens of Lebanon don't deserve protection. As I've stated many times, the death of civilians is grossly tragic.
     
  18. Bumble

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    This is what happens when we have religion. The Jewish don't like the Arabs, the Arabs don't like the Jewish and they both hate Christians. It's a battle of the "Holy Land" and who should own it. I just HOPE that the US does not send any troops over there because that will prove that our government is completely invasive, even though we have already proven that. Our world has gone down the shitter. With all of this chaos I believe in the next 5 years or less there will be a world war 3. We have the Israel and Lebanon complict, most of the middle east is chaotic, threats of nuclear weapons in North Korea, the rise in violence in Philly and on the east coast of the US and the US Government taking away the freedoms of the US people. Someone decleared a state of chaos in our world. If the Aztecs were right, then the end is near.
     
  19. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    The only real religion that truly controls the world is money, like the neo-cons and Republicans control currently. They suck the weak minded in based on questions of faith, because faith is all most of the rest of the world have to support them including the less than elite in the US. I will never sell out. I know what is right and wrong, and you can't market morals to me. My morals and ethics are part of who I am, not something I will give up to increase my portfolio holdings or lessen my insurance costs. I've listened to the sound bites before, and the promise of a better future has never materialized, due to following the advice of others.
     
  20. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Hi Bumble :)
    Not true, Are their religions teach so? Judging religions according to its followers deeds is wrong because many of its followers don't practice their religion. Know the religion and you will know its real followers.
    Very wrong, one example: Muslims can marry jewish and christian women? and of course they can love their wives???
    Read more about Zionism, by the way some of them are atheisits? am I wrong?
    Some links:

    (= *Peace and love* =)
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     

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