Israel Is Where I's Going

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by BraveSirRubin, Feb 13, 2007.

  1. neponiatka

    neponiatka Senior Member

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  2. BraveSirRubin

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    I've lived in the states for close to 2 years, hmm...more like 1.5.

    My mama was born in Belorus and my father was born in Poland...so nope, not there.

    The problem with staying in a Kibbutz is that there is no future in it. The kibbutz system is dying in Israel, and I can spend a year or two in one, but that's probably as much time as I can devote to it.

    Fleeing would do me no good. What will I do in another country? They don't just accept random people and give them work and a place to live.
     
  3. daisymae

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    Maybe you could put yourself up for adoption...:D
     
  4. crummyrummy

    crummyrummy Brew Your Own Beer Lifetime Supporter

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    why are you fleeing? summer is coming you could work resorts in Mexico (Cozumel, Acupolco) if you just wanted to wait out your schooling lapse and come back to continue.
     
  5. BraveSirRubin

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    Do you think they'll just let me work in Mexico? I'm pretty sure it's hard for an Israeli to get a work visa there. I also need to have a US embassy through which I can do all of my applications and shit.

    All of this would be a lot damn easier if the government would just let me stay here and re-apply. My only damn family (other than me brother) lives here.

    I don't know... I still haven't bought any tickets or anything... so I still have some time to think this out. My school treated my like a liability when I talked to them on the phone, so today I'm gonna call them again and just ask a bunch of questions... I feel like they at least own me some answers.

    To be honest though, I'd rather go to bloody Israel than to stay here working with the mexicans and living near my parents. Ever since I got myself in shit with school my parents have been constantly hinting at how I'm ruining their lives and what a waste of skin it is. I will not take those comments to heart, I know better than that... but they are awfully annoying. Ya know, I came here for support from them, and a place to stay at to get used to my medication... but man... all I get is non-stop criticism (even if it's out of love, as my mother says).

    On one hand I feel like something inside me died with this whole army thing, on the other hand I feel a great pull to go out there and live completely on my own... no dependancy on my mother for anything ranging from food to airplane tickets to emotional comfort.

    Plus... Israeli girls are probably 50 times prettier and more intelligent than American girls on average :D
     
  6. crummyrummy

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    sorry. I thought you didnt wanna go to Israel. I just thought of a convenient nearby country that seldom asks questions. I would go to Israel,, but I never been there, partly I wold be scared of Terrorists but mostly I would just wanna absorb everything. If I could go anywhere though, I prolly go back to Greece and try and make it work out.
     
  7. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    HEY!!! I....was going to say i resent that, but it's true. *sigh*
     
  8. BraveSirRubin

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    I don't really want to go to Israel, but it at least seems to be an option.

    I would still much rather just go to college here and lead a nice care-free life.

    I haven't lived in Israel in 9 years, the only thing that's probably encouraging me to go there is pure curiosity.
     
  9. whichaxe

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    How long does one have to serve in the Israeli military? (The thought of jews fighting outside the marketplace is mind blowing....)
     
  10. seamonster66

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    not much of a history buff?

    Isreali-Arabic wars, palestinians, 100 years war.......
     
  11. antithesis

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    What a ridiculous comment.
     
  12. KozmicBlue

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    Aww man, that is so fucked up.. Stay safe.
     
  13. hotwater

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    What would you suggest perhaps a kevlar yarmulke [​IMG]



    Hotwater
     
  14. BraveSirRubin

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    It's 2.5-3 years in the military, truly depends.

    Anyhow...

    I had a nice long talk with my international advisor over the phone today. She said that there is a chance for me to stay here, after she would actually let me tell her the whole story without being a bitch. What I will apparently need to do is this:

    -Get a medical excuse (Hopefully my shrink will officially write it up for me tomorrow)
    -Get a new financial statement from my mama (who ain't got too much money right now)
    -Wait for her to see if she can further assist me (in other words, so that she could know how much money we have)
    -If it all works out fill out some forms and shit.
    -Pray to satan that immigration lets me have my visa back, which is likely, yet not certain.
    -Go back to school and pay full international tuition (which will be like 7,000$ with housing and food... which is a lot of money)


    Now, lets suppose that it all works out, right...

    What do you think would be better for me to do:

    Option 1) Go back to school in Arkansas. Have my poor mama pay for it and hope that I can get my scholarship back after a semester (not too likely). Somehow sit there for the next 3 years if I can afford it (depends on my mama), work while I'm at school (20 hours a week and uber-minimum wage), and see what happens next.

    Option 2) Pretend that I'm going to school in Arkansas, do all the necessary shit to get accepted back. Then, pull a "fuck you" on them and transfer to a uni in Florida (probably some crappy community college). Here in Florida there is a chance that they will give me resident tuition (not very likely though), and it's sunny. I would still have my mama pay for it, but hopefully not too much. I will also yet again work while studying in order to help out and at least not have her send me money for anything other than school itself.

    Option 3) Go to Israel, avoid all the damn uncertainty and paperwork. Army, no army... work, no work. At least I can work wherever I want there (even though there is a strong lack of jobs... but I can always flip burgers or do some kind of work like that... I don't mind crappy jobs, as long as I get some bread, ya know) If I go into the army I'll get a place to live, food, money, and a professional education (unless I go into the combat forces). If I don't go to the army I still have a place to live at, and could probably apply for a intensive hebrew learning program for a year in preparation to school in Israel or I could go to a Kibbutz and take it easy for a year or so, smoke a lot of pot, and have sex in corn fields. The downsides of this are ofcourse the possibility of being sent out to combat (it's truly not that high though), the omnipresent fog of war which floats around Israel, the lack of jobs, and the crappy weather (too cold in the winter, too hot in the summer... Arkansas weather, pretty much :)) On the other side, the people in Israel are very chill, and it's actually a country where I'm a citizen, so I'll be free to do anything I truly want (once I get past the army thing).

    Do take into account the fact that I would rather not be dependent on my mama financially and that I've already been unhappy in Arkansas once... not much to do in small town, Arkansas... great people though... yet there are great people everywhere. Also, I will become a US citizen in 4-6 years anyhow because of my mama, and then the US is open for me.

    With all that in mind, kind souls, what do you suggest?
     
  15. seamonster66

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    come on up here to school, its cheap, some good people...people drink very heavily...then we can hang out....or go to my alma mater where Hiro goes now

    I don't think you will have to go back to Israel, just a feeling i have
     
  16. BraveSirRubin

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    You know, 'em rumors say that when you have a feeling something comes true, Gary :)

    But isn't Ohio like iceeeecold?

    And man, I dunno... doubt I can become an Ohio resident, while here in Florida I can prove that I'm dependent on me parents. Plus, I have an illegal job which I can always come back to if I need some extra money over the weekend :D
     
  17. seamonster66

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    dude I'll adopt you, no one moves here anymore, they need people :D

    its cold then burning hot, so we have the worst of two worlds...plus I can get you an under the table bar tending job, or door guy at a music club job....my russian friend Aleks does that too, you guys would love each other
     
  18. whichaxe

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    I'd get your butt out there immediately and get a job... If you really want to stay here in the US, i don't think you can rely on anyone but yourself. Make it happen, cuz it sounds like you're the only one with the power. Considering you're multi-lingual and fairly educated, you can pretty much take your pick of a lot of things... maybe even work off the books. Depending on what type of work you get, that might also give you another edge on staying here. Wanna go to school and survive? Go to class during the day, and work at night... Work a decent job too, not some crappy work study thing... It'll be a busy life, but if staying here is what you want, it'll be worth it. I know people that survived areas of the country that are more expensive to live in than florida - most had even less going for them than you.

    Why go back to Arkansas where you know already that you weren't happy? If you wanna go back to school, check out some schools that might actually teach you something? For now, stay in Orlando for awhile and be close to your mom. You got a pick of a couple of schools in the area. I'm certain your academic record is quite impressive - that will help when it comes to landing a scholarship or something of that nature.

    The other thing you might wanna do, and I don't know how you'd go about this exactly, but, let's just remember how many illegals / former-illegals there are in the state of Florida... You might wanna ask around and find someone who's been through the process and knows the tricks.
     
  19. BraveSirRubin

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    Haha, can you adopt 20 year olds? :D

    You see, I can bartend a tad, I used to have a friend on the islands who was the bartended of this nice beach front bar and he would always let me mix drinks for drunk british girls :) I also had a high school teacher who was a bartender and taught me some drink combinations when we would go out to bars.

    So yeah, I could do that :D
     
  20. seamonster66

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    shut the fuck up!

    PS non citizens can't really just go out and get legal jobs.
     

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