Isn't Veganism a first world privledge?

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by PlacidDingo, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. Piney

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    Thinking about poor, forest people eating bush meat.

    These are the poorest, they hunt wild game.
     
  2. Piney

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    In New York City, Carriage horses are in danger of losing their livelihood, due to a ban on the carriages. Where will the horses go?

    Who will snatch up the building where the horses sleep at night?
     
  3. noela

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    Jains, Hindus, Monks, certain Native tribes, and the millions of vegans around the world who thrive and raise vegan families have always existed. Vegans world wide have been around for centuries. Get your facts straight brother.

    There's nothing wrong that First World countries are leaning more towards organic foods, and not unprocessed tv dinners like we used to eat. Meat makes you sick, the only species out there that doesn't get sick from meat or raw meat is carnivores. We aren't carnivores. Humans are just evolving. Get over it.
     
  4. Gongshaman

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    What about the Indians of the Great plains? The Bison were their way of life (before the white man hunted the bison to extinction) If you told them meat made them sick they would have laughed. Some climates don't support pure vegetarianism without modern agricultural technology.

    Maybe eating meat isn't necessary in these modern times, but lets realize that meat played an important part in humans evolution.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/should-humans-eat-meat-excerpt/

    "Our digestive tract is not one of obligatory herbivores; our enzymes evolved to digest meat whose consumption aided higher encephalization and better physical growth.

    Cooperative hunting promoted the development of language and socialization; the evolution of Old World societies was, to a significant extent, based on domestication of animals; in traditional societies, meat eating, more than the consumption of any other category of foodstuffs, has led to fascinating preferences, bans and diverse foodways; The role of scavenging, and later hunting, in the evolution of bipedalism and the mastery of endurance running cannot be underestimated, and neither can the impact of planned, coordinated hunting on non-verbal communication and the evolution of language."
     
  5. freckles7

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    If it is a first world privilege, I live in the first world sobi choose to live by it. Im not going to tell people who are starving to go vegan, because they don't have the luxury to puck and choose their food. But I do have that luxury so I choose vegan.
     
  6. eggsprog

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    The Inuit in what is now the far-north of Canada would have never been able to survive on a plant-based diet, since plants don't grow there.
     
  7. RandomVegan

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    did not bother to read everyones entry

    my food bill went from a consistent $250-$300 per month as omnivore to now under $100 as Vegan, just don't eat any packaged stuff, fresh, non-gmo and of possible organic local grown produce (that last part is the hardest)
     
  8. Ghostly

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    Even if it is, that doesn't make it a bad idea. It's true, when we were first coming up as a species we became omnivores (unlike most other apes who are herbivores by and large) because of periods of famine. We needed it. We don't need it anymore.

    That's the thing, people who live in the first world, in this land of prosperity, have been given much. And to whom much is given, much will be expected. We have the ability to reduce animal suffering and be good stewards to the earth and we have the responsibility to.
     
  9. Monkey Boy

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    Rice and beans are about the cheapest food. Plus, you can grow greens most of the year for a few dollars.
     
  10. drumminmama

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    I think the intent of the question was to be able to choose to exclude entire types of food is a privilege, born of bounty.

    In that way, I say veganism, and to an extent, vegetarianism, are choices of privilege.
    First world? Not necessarily, aside from the sheer options of modern commerce. Coconut oil outside of the tropics, let alone fresh Thai coconuts for water?
    Definitely privilege!

    But, as RandomVegan pointed out, it can be an extremely economical choice.
     
  11. M@ry

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    I think it always depends. Of course there are countries in which people simply can't afford to buy any meat, but also there are those with expensive fruit and vegetables...
     

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