Islam is about peace and love?

I saw a picture earlier, I can't find it now but ill keep looking. It showed an Islamic man after the ambassador was murdered holding a sign that said, "I am sorry America. This is not my Islam."

What does a picture really prove?

It is a small percentage of violent radicals that pervert Islam. I would go out on a limb and say the majority of this faction are the poor and uneducated being manipulated by extremist groups like al quaeda for political, not religious, reasons.

Uneducated people are manipulated all over the world into becoming violent people to forward someone else's agenda. This is not only true of Islam, or even of religion. Look at white supremacy groups.

 

"Uneducated people are manipulated all over the world into becoming violent people to forward someone else's agenda. This is not only true of Islam, or even of religion. Look at white supremacy groups."

No doubt, but how many of them actually advocate beheading people who do not agree with them or their agenda? To call this the dark ages of islam makes some sense. But back in the real dark ages there were no worldwide communications channels. There is simply no excuse for this kind of mass ignorance and barbaric behaviour now.
None at all.

 

hippies are about peace and love . i see islamic hippies
are just recently blooming . how powerful is the voice of
peace and love ... ah , you know how that story goes ...
and it goes on and on despite impatient outrageous complainers .

 

OK, but why go out on a limb? Is it just because you want to be a nice person and don't want to believe that Islam is a violent religion? I used to be like that, but the more I learn about Islam, the less I like it.

 

Levity.

 

Because I have friends that peacefully practice Islam and out of respect for them, their friends, and their families living in both America and the middle east I am going to assume they are in the majority, not minority.

Regular people living regular lives are generally more numerous than radical people living violent lives, but being average doesn't create headlines.

 

Good answer, but I still detect a bit of wishful thinking. The language in the Koran is quite violent, I've heard.

 

Not more violent than the language in the bible or the language on tv for that matter

 

OP Islam is about total submission to its ideology. It's practitioners are bigoted slaves proud of their manacles and see no reason why the rest of Earth should not feel the same way. It is anti woman and anti free speech.

Even its own useless apologists are not immune to the religions strict fascist guidelines. They have simply picked and chose bits and pieces to follow in the Koran and ignored or worse, attempt to misconstrue other more harsh passages.

 

Like christians did.

 

I do not see a logical error in Meliai's comment.
I have met Muslims who do not try to observe teachings in the Quran in the same manner that it was practiced 1,000 years ago. They find that the key teachings are still relevant to their lives and they live in peace with their neighbors of other faiths.

I have met other Muslims who take a more literal path, but do not espouse violence.
I studied that type of Islam under the guidance of a teacher from Algeria, but I respectfully broke off my studies when I could not agree with some of the doctrines he taught. My disagreement does not mean that I condemn Islam nor the man who taught me. It is possible for people to "agree to disagree" and remain at peace.

There are many people who practice a form of Islam that is violent towards those they disagree with, even fellow Islamists. We have seen examples of women who were beheaded simply for teaching girls how to read and write. Some of them have bombed synagogues in remote corners of the Earth. I read about girls left to burn to death in their schoolhouse because they did not have veils to cover their faces and it was considered better for them to die in agony than be exposed to public view however briefly.

Defenders of this behavior have said that Christians, Jews, Hindus and secular people do this too. Criminal behavior cannot be justified by the crimes of others. All of it is evil.

I am not a total pacifist. I believe that all people have the right to defend themselves and it is good to protect the weak, but I believe that world peace will not be achieved primarily by warfare, but by the propagation of love and wisdom.

We feel compassion for those living under strict, even brutal Islamic regimes. I would not wish that on my worst enemies. The path to freedom may be a very long one for that part of the world. It is our tendency in the West to want to right every wrong, fix every social ill.

What would it take to for the Muslim world to create liberal, free-thinking, tolerant societies? I am not saying that people in the West should do nothing, but they should recognize the limits of their power of persuasion.

 

Explain this to me, please. Currently, Muslims in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and other countries are rioting, committing acts of murder and mayhem, and engaging in other improprieties. The proximate cause of this, as I understand it, is a You Tube excerpt from a movie ridiculing the Prophet Mohammed. I can certainly understand why Muslims would be highly offended by that excerpt. Many Christians were offended by the film The Last Temptation of Christ, depicting Jesus as a weak-kneed ninny. I could even understand, although not condone, someone committing an act of violence against the folks who made the film, if they could find them. But what is the point of killing an American ambassador, attacking our embassies, and otherwise raging against the United States over this? The United States government didn't make the film, and our highest officials deplored it before all the violence even began. Generally speaking, these Muslim mobs seem to have an extremely short fuse, and seem to riot at the drop of a turban, targeting anyone in sight--whether or not (s)he had anything to do with the cause of grievance. It recalls all the rioting over the Pope's quoting of some obscure Christian ruler from the Middle Ages who, under attack from Muslims, said Islam is a violent religion. As if to prove him right, Muslims did their typical thing of rioting, burning, etc., in protest. If Islam is about peace and love, is violence the best way to express it? Or am I missing something?

 

You have it pretty well summed up, I think...

 

Muslims :banghead:

 

Maybe in rebuttal to my own post, I should ask the same question about Christian followers of the "Prince of Peace" who, anytime Muslims do something to piss them off, go beat up on (more recently massacre) some hapless Sikhs. Whatever happened to "turn the other cheek"? Of course, in any religion there are nut cases and evildoers who distort the message of their prophets. The Westboro Baptists come to mind, not to mention the creeps who made the movie about the Prophet Mohammed. Could more be done to spread awareness of these paradoxes.

 

I am intolerant of ignorance!just for the record it was protestants that started the war against my people.people going around their own countr, minding their own bussiness hundreds of years ago, when a nutcase called cromwell jumped outa a boat onto one of our beaches 800yrs ago with his fellow nutcases.walked inta one our towns and slaughterd every man, woman an child in it."Because a voice from god" told him ta do it!"his protestant god!people at war with no one living peacefully in their own country.ye talk of love,an war and peace ,but fail ta see that they are all interwined.when the first agressor strikes in any war,the people striking back are doing so out of love and protection for their people.the sadest thing about any war is the fact that truely peace loving good and decent people, are forced to take actions they normally would'nt, in order to protect and free their people and their nations from tyranny and the more of this i read the more i can clearly see how programmed and warped the minds of generations of people have been,as they still believe the lies.muslims?we live very happily over here together side by side.there is no war between us.and there never will be.no one likes war.but when war comes ta visit,all peace and freedom loving people will always stand together to protect their people from attackers.why? because of love!

 

At least the Irish haven't expressed their love by killing any American ambassadors. I guess we should be grateful.

 

You are all assuming that all muslims are like the violent ones. Not the case. What about all the hoodrat drug dealers that take their mom to church every sunday? We dont say 'christians are violent people and drug dealers'. Do any of you know any muslims personally? They are for the most part a hard working and industrious people who take their job, education, and faith seriously and contribute alot to society

 

^ This. Poverty + Ignorance + Indoctrination = Fanatic Idiot.

 

No. Nobody here is assuming all muslims are violent. Its fairly safe however to state that in any given situation where somebody thinks they have been "offended" then it is muslim based people who get this poisonous mob mentality going and start kicking off all over the world.
Its ALWAYS muslims. The teddy bear called Mohamed, the film by Theo Van Gogh, the Danish cartoons etc etc.
Being religious does not excuse you from using your own brain to assess the situation.
Except that is exactly what happens. How many of this rioting shitheads have even seen the stupid film?