What do you want the government to do to protect you from ISIS? I think we totally need to give up our rights completely so the government can protect us. We also need another war, because we are the good guys and we need to stop the bad guys. I mean, who cares that ISIS were funded and trained by the US government. They behead people, and beheading is horrible, so we need to let this play on our emotions so we don't think and just go along with whatever the government proposes as the solution to this crisis. The southern borders are wide open, so terrorists could easily get into the country from neighboring countries, but we really need to have more TSA at the airports putting their hands down our pants. We also need more checkpoints and cameras on every street corner. Well, that's enough thinking for one day. I am going to go have a beer and a burger and watch ESPN.
Well, you know, I'm not saying ISIS is good, because I don't think it is. But... I can see where all this is going now. With the 2nd american being decapitated and the press coverage of that the past two days .... today w Biden's rhetoric "We'll follow ISIS to the edge of hell" (or whatever he said)... I can see we are def being groomed into something big happening (another war, etc.).... Can't help thinking, since I see it's going there anyways, that I hope they don't think people need a big excuse...
I never understand why people shirk expressing their thoughts in a straightforward manner in favor of a thin veil of easily decipherable sarcasm. It's hardly satire. Are we supposed to just read it and think "Oh, he really means the opposite of what he said." What's the point? There's something psychological going on when a person chooses to express their thoughts this way. I think people resort to this kind of sarcasm when they are experiencing inner turmoil.
Because you cannot express an opinion on these forums other than the propaganda the media spews without being attacked and berated for it.
That's odd considering that I said "I don't understand" in the very first sentence. But maybe you didn't get that far.
It was your last sentence that made me say that. About how you think people who write like that are experiencing inner turmoil. Because sometimes I say things way overly sarcastic like that myself. I don't think I do it too often. And I'm honestly trying to figure out what makes me resort to that sort of sarcasm. I'm fairly certain it's never inner turmoil. I think more often it's.... that something is so blatantly something or another that to just state it seems pointless so sometimes I state the opposite as a statement of how much I mean the reverse... if that evens make sense.
I've always thought counter-mainstream opinion gets a lot of support here, but ok. Do you think two beheaded journalists are enough to drum up public approval for another war overseas? Personally I don't think most Americans really care. I keep seeing these posts on here about how the media has ulterior motives when reporting on ISIS, but even if they did, I just don't see how it would make a difference. Then again I'm really not in the media loop. I guess they could be hammering on it far more than I realize. Well from his reply it's become apparent that the sarcasm resulted from an inner frustration with the discourse here. So I guess you and I were both right, I do know everything.
As for what you said to PR about how two beheaded journalists probably wouldn't be enough to gain support for another war, that was part of my initial point. But I do get the feelings this is where the government is heading with things. And who said I was being sarcastic? Maybe you actually do know everything.
principally, to stop creating reasons for people to want to join things like that. (btw, that name, if anything, proves just how much fanatics aren't really paying attention beyond their own dogma and immediate goals. kind of like the say way with governments and the coporations that have usurped them)
It is good IS (as they are called here now) is stopped with force. They are committing atrocities against any person who is against them if they can. Is it good the US is doing it? It is great they wanna make an effort (although we definitely can doubt their motives) but I don't see why they have to do it on it's own. When you know that their recent help has saved a lot of innocent lifes in Iraq already I also find it hard to totally condemn those bomb (and food) droppings. But it doesn't seem that smart to go assist with military force on their own, wether they as a nation have some guilt to Iraq or not.
It makes me feel pretty sick the military is involved in Iraq again after America fucked it up so royally the first 2 times.
I have to admit I am glad it is not my country that is military involved over there. Although if it was part of a UN mission it would maybe be tolerable or even acceptable.
The media has been responsible for spreading the message of ISIS to every corner of the globe. Despite how negative the coverage is, there are many who are receptive to their message. ISIS plays the media very well. Actually I think the whole thing is overblown. Yeah, there maybe a few thousand core believers, but the rest are just Sunnis who want to take back Iraq (and Syria). So there are many other groups, tribes, etc that are taking advantage of the situation to improve their standing. Once these other groups have what they want, then they will no longer support ISIS and it will fade away, esp with armies of drones going after them. Of course as long as they have MONEY to pay people to kill it will continue. The real threat is religious extremism, and that IS REAL. And I'm not just talking about muslim fanatics here. I'm talking about good ol' American Christian extremists, hindu extremists, etc. Anyone who feels the need to IMPOSE their religious beliefs on others needs restraining and retraining so they can be refraining from retaining those extreme beliefs.
I'm personally a little torn about the situation. Because I do believe ISIS is bad and has been doing a lot of harm. But at the same time when the U.S. has, today, been saying that the strategy is not just to contain ISIS but to obliterate ISIS, that makes me uncomfortable... because what would it take to do that? How large a war? For how long? I can see shades and possibilities of another years long war ahead. I don't think that nothing should be done but I'm hoping what is gonna be done isn't just the U.S. in Iraq (and Syria?) for 5+ years...
