???? so how did you come to that conclusion considering you haven't really said much of anything for anyone to "see what you're getting at", so care to elucidate your feeling/thoughts further so we can all know just exactly what it is you are upset about? Inquiring minds want to know :sultan:
and I hope you realize that the above statement is a sure fired guaranteed way to get barraged with a bunch of bullshit.
As much as I like that you are defending the topic of this conversation (Thank you, even though I know it's not for me, lol), it's also understandable why people react the way they do. It's a hard topic to talk about, both online and in person.
I can understand the fellow poster's point of view, considering most of the comments I have gotten weren't solutions or information to my situation. But, I also understand the point of view of others because this is a hard conversation to talk about with seriousness and unbiasedness. It's hard, I get it.
Trust me, there are no hard topics to discuss here at HF. I guess you missed the whole thread from the guy who liked to have sex with his dog. But I'm curious why you don't seem to accept what everyone has been telling you...you're absolutely fine and don't be so self conscious about it. It is who you are, and anyone who is with you should just accept it/you as is, soggy sheets and all. You have been given some good advice here (drumminmama is a very wise lady concerning these topics as are some others who have replied). IMHO, this is much more an issue concerning your self image and insecurity. Learn to love and accept who you are and to hell with any potential lover that can't accept you as you are. If you truly feel it is a way beyond the spectrum of normalcy, then this isn't the venue for finding answers of a medical caliber, see your gyno. What you will get here are opinions, experiences and the occasional smart-assed remark, but rarely solid medical advice if that is what you are seeking. also bear in mind that the lame-assed "that's gross" and more immature type of reactions will come from the younger, less experienced members. remember if sex isn't at least a little messy, your doing it wrong
Actually, as stupid as this sounds... I never thought of going to my primary doctor about it. I never considered it to be a medical issue, that's why. To me, it's more a social issue, considering my experiences have been ill-mannered with people reacting to it, where girls say "Ew, you're gross!" and guys say "Do me, do me now!", and that is simplifying it to a vast degree. There are also the people who joke (Which, I gotta admit some of the jokes are clever) or are downright rude or what I consider to be rude (That just makes me feel bad). Anyways, maybe. I don't know if I'm prepared to get the typical confused look from my doctor. It's one thing to get ill-mannered responses over the Internet, but it's heartbreaking when I get them in person. This is why I haven't had sex in so long. I can't deal with that reaction, that rejection, objectification, or mockery. I understand and respect it. I truly do. I'm abnormal, and abnormality is not welcomed in this world. But, I can't deal with it. I'm too weak and transparent. But, you're right... if I want a professional answer I have to go to a professional. I mean, the good thing is that professionals can only be professional. Sure, their mannerisms and facial expressions can be unprofessional, but they can't do anything, but be professional, no matter what I say or do. So, I guess I have that.
I just don't get it though. Me and some other females earlier in this thread told you that the same thing happens to us, at least some of the times. I remember telling you that when I use toys on myself I end up having to put a towel under myself and if I don't... oops... but anyways, for me I just don't consider it to be a big deal and I've never had a guy complain. I wouldn't be with a guy who would complain anyways... or even think anything negative because I have better taste than that but that's another story...I guess I'm just not understanding why you think it's some big abnormality? No one is the same and people shouldn't be the same. That's something about you... and people can take it or leave it and if they don't like it- fuck em anyways, not worth your time. As for girls saying "gross!" and guys saying "I want some of that!" (or whatever you said...along those lines!)... first of all I can't imagine girls that are older than 14 saying "gross!" and as for guys-I guess I just don't (in real life, lol) discuss things like that with random piggy guys, ya know what I mean? I have discretion in what I discuss with who... not that I'm prudeish cause by far I'm not but I respect myself and usually lean towards the side of tasteful conversation. Anyways... I just feel like I'm missing something about what the BIG issue is here??! As for talking to the gyn. Yeah, I mean, If you think it's that abnormal/severe... by all means, bring it up if you want a medical outlook! If you feel silly or something making an appt just to discuss that then wait til you have your next exam and will be there anyways and then just bring it up casually, like this... "Oh yea, there is something that's been kinda bugging me for a while and I Just wanted to hear from a medical perspective if this is considered normal?" And then I'm sure the doc will tell you "yes" but regardless of what the doc answers for the first part- if it's bothering you that much (which I think it is), I would say something along the lines of "well, to me it's just bugging me a lot because it seems so excessive like it's actually interfering with things... (explain amount of towels or that blanket or whatever you use) and I was wondering if there was anything from a medical standpoint that I could be doing to try to decrease this a little?" Shrugs.
I was more basing my thoughts and feelings on past events, than what occurred in this thread. For example, my experiences with girls came from when I was younger and in sex education. I figured because that was the place to talk about sex, I should ask about it there, and stupidly I did with ill-mannered reactions. I had another sex education class when I was older, in high school and thinking because we're older, this time it will be okay and same thing happened. You're right, it was younger girls, but that still resonates with me because quite frankly it messes with your head when a group of girls point and laugh, calling you names. The rest of the experiences come from the Internet, where someone would post a thread somewhat similar to mine and the girls weren't very accepting or at least what I thought were girls, you never know with the Internet. They thought this other girl was a whore, lying to get attention, gross, and stuff like that. As for my experiences with men, that comes from personal experiences, like having sex. Or again, forums in which I read guys either really hating it, where they would want it to be stopped or really liking it, where they would objectify. I will admit my feelings and thoughts come from mostly reading other people's reactions to someone else, not me. But, I do have some experiences of my own, as I stated above, so that's where my feelings and thoughts come from. I don't talk about it in person anymore. I know better. But, I do talk about it online. Maybe, more than I should. I'm quite honest with my sexuality, actually. Well, as far as the Internet goes. And with every moment I talk about it I add to the vault of experiences. I'm very well aware that I should probably not base my experiences over the Internet because more often than not they will be negative because of the dehumanization of the Internet, but I've grown accustom to the comfort of being behind a computer and considering the few times I have talked about it in person, it not being the highlights of my life. Maybe there is more to this. I am sensitive, so that might be it. I do take to heart things and take them with great seriousness. And there is other stuff, everyone has a sad story to tell. It could be anything or nothing, but I figured that information wasn't of importance because that's all has to do with mentality and I'm basing this physiologically. Or at least I want to. I think it's time though, I stopped talking about it online, like the cowardly dumbass that I am. I have an appointment anyways, I'll ask about it then. I'm just scared.
the biggest problem is in your head and self image, not your hoochy-coo. you are NOT abnormal, you just are at a different place in the spectrum than other people. seriously, don't beat yourself up because others are assholes without a clue. and if you think it is excessive, go see your gynecologist, I'm sure you will not be the first time he/she has had a squirter who has questions about it. again for the last fucking time YOU ARE NOT ABNORMAL, just get that crap outta your head. :love:
Hey.... don't ever base ANYTHING on what grade school OR high school girls say. Girls that age are just silly and say silly things because they think it's cool or funny or whatever... or just from immaturity... Oh and also you're not a cowardly dumbass. Don't call yourself things like that... it's not nice. And yea... for sure, if you have an appointment, just bring it up then. I would if I were you. You know... I used to sometimes worry about mentioning certain things to doctors-for various reasons... not wanting doc to know something or feeling like a question or complaint was silly or something- but I came to the realization that doctors- well, you said it earlier- they are professionals. They're doctors. That's their job. They are used to it. I'm sure they get asked much more silly things or told much more embarrassing things then I've ever told them. So I don't really give any thought anymore to being scared or even nervous about talking to a doctor about anything. And I've made some pretty silly appointments. I could tell you stories... but I won't but haha... I can laugh about it. It's their job... no worries.
I was nervous first time a saw a doctor about things too and you are right it is their job and there is no judgement. Chances are they've seen much much worse than what you have. My first visit for personal issues was for the cervical check up. All good there and I was nervous sitting in a chair fully spread about to have those forceps stretch me open lol and other than the cold feeling it was fine and it gave me a lot of confidence in seeing a GP.
one thing to keep in mind is that all doctors did their time in residency and that meant many, many hours working the ER. I promise you, your GP or gyno has taken things out of various bodily orifices and have seen/dealt with all other manner of sexually related mishaps. Compared to that, you being a little too juicy isn't anything to be embarrassed about.
I like the way you wrote what I could say. I know, though I will just be like, "Okay, here is the thing..." and it won't be pretty after that. I'll try to remember how you said it, though. Thanks.
To be honest, I haven't gotten a physical in years. I tend to avoid the dreaded pap-smear and breast examination. I got it once when I was 18 and was like, "Never again!" Every time I go to my primary doctor, I do it for other reasons and when she mentions that I haven't gotten a pap-smear, breasts examination, I'm like, "Uh, yea." She kind of just stopped after so many attempts. I know, I'm so mature.
This is true. Haha... you're welcome. It's obviously just a suggestion. I don't know why- maybe because when I was younger esp. I used to always map out (you know, write down) what I would say when I made important phone calls or had to talk to a doctor about something important to me or whatever... but anyways, I seem to be good at coming up with how to say things usually. I just start writing scripts in my head. With pap smears and stuff- I learned to tell myself the same thing as when I would wanna talk to a doctor about-whatever--- "They're doctors". Doesn't bother me. It's a doctor. And it's a good thing too because if it bothered me I'd be in bad shape in two or less months.
Well I hope your assessment of your experienced is at least 50/50 here. You got some jokesters but you also got serious responses too. But I concur, the more medical questions you have can't be answered by us but may require MULTIPLE opinions from various general practitioners and gynecologists.