Is There A Planetary Consciousness?

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by skip, Dec 18, 2014.

  1. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    The BLOB . oh , no!
     
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  2. volunteer_tommy

    volunteer_tommy Elongated Member

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    Well, that's the thing, though... the universe definitely isn't for us, but it isn't against us, either. It just is. Devour to survive kinda seems like it's counter-intuitive and unnecessarily destructive, not to mention the fact that there becomes logistical problems with the whole thing. IMHO that quote represents pure irresponsibility on our own part, and following the wisdom it offers would make us just as impersonal as the universe around us. Do we really want to consume or control everything which existed before us? Are we even ready? The answer is no to both questions. We can't even handle ourselves with what we have now.
     
  3. thedope

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    I think reality supports it's constituents. I think trying to calculate your own progress is a fundamental exercise in futility. The idea that one is not perfect or that the world is amiss is a superstition based on a distorted sense of proportion. For example if no one is perfect where is the perfect example on which to make comparisons? The truth is relative to true terms and those are same, different, and purposeful. If truth is a qualification then no one qualifies. Just because some are vain doesn't mean there is nothing real to be seen however. I think we live in fear of our true proportions and think this fear is without substantial reason although not without cause. It comes from the conviction that you are essentially unworthy and this is the biggest mind fuck on the planet. It you are essentially unworthy then you need to be controlled. This is what modern culture is all about, control, control, control.

    However massive and genuine precision is demonstrated by the celestial paths that can be predicted with such timely accuracy over eons. What then do we need control for? We need control to maintain abstractions for without coercion the wild things will roam but I have to say that nature is always tastefully arranged. There are no floors to sweep nor walls to wash standing in the cathedral of nature. Most remiss in our previous education at large is the nature of our own well being. No one is taught early on how to respond to this wild nervous system we inherit other than in the dimwitted way of producing sexually oriented stereotypes of behavior within a hypnotic abstraction we call time and again practical necessity. It is a bull shit mind sucking racket.

    I think our genuine proportions are noble in the same sense as the movement of the planets and our circulatory systems are accurately reflected in rivers and oceans and vascular plants and fungi, insects, animals and as well minerals themselves. The universe is made of information and is every bit itself informed. The atomic model of matter demonstrates this occurs through communication and the quantum model demonstrates the power of the naturally abstract mind. In effect we consciously occupy space because matter itself is in communication.
     
  4. guerillabedlam

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    The song is primarily talking about how we are drawn to consuming tragic news via television...

    But this part I quoted, I think opens up the idea of consumption as inherent in nature. We need to devour food for energy, devour resources for society, black holes devour the celestial bodies around them, stars devour cosmic dust for formation, etc. So it doesn't explicitly say it but I get the impression is that the message is pay attention to what you devour and be cogniscent of the types of media you are consuming.

    Are the current event stories that get the most replies on this forum usually positive ones or tragic ones?
     
  5. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Thinking about this seriously, I think there is. The web of computer technology seems to be its own entitiy already with what seems a a shared consciousness....am not sure I like that.....though......I always like roads less travelled.....
     
  6. guerillabedlam

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    Is the web useful for any species other than humans? I know there have been some apps made for pets and stuff but I don't think any other species can really interact with it, particularly non-domesticated animals.
     
  7. Moonglow181

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    I don't think so, unless we are speaking of the spiders who weave their webs......

    problem with the web, as it builds a lot of mistrust everywhere.......sometimes.....
    that is a drawback.....If in a room seeing everyone, there would be no doubts...or at least, not as many, but here I still am anyway....just have to be more careful who i talk to sometimes, Iguess....i always say you are innocent, until I see otherwise, and I have that backwards, anyway......
     
  8. tikoo

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    Hack the Blob . See what happens .
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  9. volunteer_tommy

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  10. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    A little mouse in a glittering of mind gazed into the reflection of
    the Sun upon the pond . Jumped into that . We can skoo 'ello to
    our mouse in the sun Up! even as we are scattered and the commune
    of oaks and ponds and crystals is all long gone to the cows and
    the library , the Sun Lodge , ransacked and tumbled .

    Lorien Commune
    Oregon 1986
     
  11. volunteer_tommy

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    :D I didn't know the context of the song, in which case I more or less agree that discipline in being aware is entirely necessary, and the whole idea of take only what you need, and be aware even of that, etc.

    And you're right - most things that show up here are tragedy, and arguments are stirred over misinformation or interpretation.
     
  12. themnax

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    probably not an independent one, but as skip suggests, there are gestalt effects. there is also such a huge number of simple principles, thus interacting in such complex ways, that something resembling intelligence might appear to exist. of course there are those who speculate, this is all intelligence is. with them i am less then inclined to agree. but as for nature, there is certainly nothing "simple" about it.
     

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