I wonder what is motivating him. I'm having fun playing devil's advocate here. P.S. It's spelled epitome
mmm.... most things I'm thinking of for jerkiness aren't as simple/small as being clueless. It's, arg, I've had a few too many jerks in my life lately. If it was clueless idiocy then telling them how to fix it would help, even if only marginally.
In the words of Lisa Simpson: “Romance is dead - it was acquired in a hostile takeover by Hallmark and Disney, homogenized, and sold off piece by piece.” No, but seriously...Romance is still very much alive, but everyone has their own idea of what romance is. To me, romance is cuddling up next to a fire and talking about absolutely everything and absolutely nothing...all at the same time. Romance is a gentle touch; a soft whisper; a look, a sparkle in someone's eye when they look at you. Romance is pure, a gesture made not out of lust, but out of simply caring for someone...at any level. But you only know romance if you've experienced it...and sometimes you just can't explain it with words.
EVERY time a man is nice to a pretty woman, he's offerin' up the dick. don't you listen to chris rock?
anyway, what seems to be happening here is that people are labelling as romance the basic forms of human affection between people who care about each other, instead of the classic definition of romance, the rules of which were set down by very unloved and very bored wives during the middle ages.
The funny thing about that routine is that it's 100% true. Yet, most women refuse to believe it. Men have always been, and still are ONLY motivated by "the four F's". I remember trying to explain to my wife once that every single man who's ever passed her on the street has pictured her naked. Every single guy who has ever worked with her or been in the same class has imagined what it would be like to have sex with her. To this day she thinks that I am exagerating.
yes i can see that kc that's why i said im not falling for the preconceived idea because i don't care about boxes of chocolates ... flowers.. expensive surprises that sparkle.... those are soo empty.. when i think of romance i think of old movies were the guy and the girl always ended up together but not the specifics just the feeling i got from watching two people fall in love and isn't that what romance was intended for by all those bored wives... to fall back in love with the men that had stolen their hearts in the first place.. so women got material possession mixed up with an emotional massage use romance as a way to remind each other that no matter how routine life gets no matter how overlooked feelings seem today... there is still a place and a time... whenever you have that feeling for someone all kinds of things become romantic gestures... like taking the time to rinse out the tub and run me a hot bath when ive had a long day of screaming kids... its not everyday all day but when it happens its appreciated and realized at being special and to me that is romance
I just got off the phone with the wife and I mentioned this whole romance thing to her. She informed me that I'm clueless, even for a guy, and I have no idea what romance is. She also says that she's know for years that when I make a gesture (usually in the form of housework), it's either because I'm trying to get some, I'm trying to keep from getting cut off, or I think she's mad at me.
well i didn't say that its something im use to getting... but like dancerannie said when you've been there you just know what it is... maybe its not that romance is dead but that true romantics (as a way of thinking) are a dying breed? just a thought.....
I think maybe part of it has to do with a man trying to stay "manly". If they do nice things for their girlfriends/wives/significant others, their peers, thanks to the media, tease them for being "pussy whipped" or "fags" (I have heard it all...trust me)...so being romantic or affectionate, again, thanks to the media, is a sign of weakness for men. Just my opinion of course.
the guy i mentioned.. yea hes one of those "nice " guys and hes said before that he has a really hard time with it because of how people treat him.. mostly women tho.. he gets overlooked .. like if he opens the door for a women she just uses him as a door stop...seriously i don't see it because when a guy opens the door for me i make eye contact and i let him know its apprieciated... and with this guy.. Oo he has an animal attraction i don't know how any women would pass up the chance to be with him
its a cancer.. being cynical .. like everybody is just soo scorned they can't love or be loved anymore... ok that was a bit dramatic :& im married to one...
I agree with your point but I certainly don't feel that way personally. Who gives a shot how the public views you. As long as the woman who loves you keeps loving you, does it matter what other people think of you? Yeah, I'm pussy whipped too... heh...
Maybe you should bring the other guy over for dinner. That might get your husband to notice you again.
my husband knows how much i like him we are getting a divorce but im not running to the arms of another man... no matter how great he is
Oops, didn't know you were getting a divorce. Let me remove my foot from my mouth then.... Wait a minute! Does this other guy know you are getting a divorce?