Is Nuclear War Inevitable?

i rank it by, we dropped bombs on japan. not on japanese soldiers. we killed so many INNOCENT people. and think of the effects years after from the nuclear radiation, and all the homes destroyed and disease cause by rotting dead people. also, you could argue that the holocaust was worse, but you need to remember that the jews declared war on germany, so in effect they werent truly innocent. but the japanese people did absolutely nothing and what do they get, 2 nuclear bombs dropped on them

 

Hmmmm, not exactly true. Japanese civilians were making war materials for the military. For a period of time even Japanese children were making rice paper for "balloon bombs" that they sent to the U.S. They launched several hundred, but only one ever landed and it didn't explode until a farm girl investigated it.

During WWII my mother worked in a factory making parts for military aircraft, as most women in cities did. Everybody worked for the war effort. Point is, when a nation is at war even civilians are helping their military, usually, except America since WWII.

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gee, and that's the only time in history that civilians were butchered en masse?

WAIT, didn't notice this at first, illiterate person posting, my mistake . . .

 

I never said it's the worst war crime by the way, quite pointless to rank anyway. But this thread is about nuclear war and for me personally the U.S. for one is hypocritical to command other countries to get rid of their nuclear weapons, not only because they are the only ones to have used them on a city with hundred of thousands of civilians but also because they still have them theirselves.
Anyway, of course civilians get killed in wars and yeah, a lot of the people in the nuked cities worked in the arms industry etc. just like in the U.K. and the states. That doesn't mean you can bomb a whole city righteously. Western nations actually were pretty shocked when Germany started to bomb non-military objects in the beginning of WWII so I don't see any reason to trivialize a nuclear assault on more then 70.000 civilians (actually I noticed this number doubled due to the radioactive impact in the next ten years).

 

I agree it stays difficult to argue what is worse (does it really matter), but generally the motive and amount of suffering plays a large part. In this case all jews were systematically terminated in concentration camps just because they belong to the jewish race. It's retardic to think jews in WWII were less innocent than any other european citizen who's nation declared war on nazi Germany.

 

^^^ um, generally it was germany that did the declaring, though there were some treaty obligations that needed fulfilling, especially after the poor showing re czechoslovakia

as far as jews go, they had no nation, did no declaring, had no guilt

 

My point: even if they as a people declared war they still were as innocent as any other citizen.

 

The jews nefarious banking and financing activities in the third reich was a deliberate attempt to destabilize the german government, and that act of treason alone warranted extermination or at least death for the guilty

Hotwater

 

Wtf, it would be the same if another nation would now plan to exterminate all american citizens because their bankers and fellow americans in finance business would be accused of a delibarate attempt of destablizing global economy.

 

i don't even know how to begin to reply to such stupidity

read a fucking book or two, maybe try one not published by ihr or noi, okay?

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i guess that not only the german jewish bankers deserved to die, but their families, their distant [non-]relatives in other countries?

not to mention the roma bankers, the jehovah witness bankers, the gay bankers, the mentally retarded bankers?

 

I was simply following suit with several the other morons before me as an act of unity


Hotwater

 

Nuclear Warfare is not inevitable.
It is required.

This world is sick.
It needs to heal.

 

i certainly hope so

[sorry i edited while you were replying]

why would one seek unity with morons?

 

umm...healing begins at home...

 

yeah because they were almost forced too. they were told if the us troops reached them that the american troops would rape and kill all of them. that is why when the americans took over islands like okinawa most of the civilians commited mass suicide

 

The jews declared war on the nazi's the day that hitler was elected, or put into power.

 

this would be funny if it was not so sad

 

lol well i mean you could argue that the nazi's didnt do that much wrong. i mean if you kill your enemy and torture them, thats what every army ever has done. yes kids even the united states

 

it has been wrong when the united states has done it

and it was wrong when germany did it

and it was wrong when japan did it

and it was wrong when turkey, the soviet union, china, cambodia, rwanda, whoever did it

and it is wrong when anybody does it

btw, the jewish people of germany, who were in fact german citizens, did not attack germany

nor did they or the jewish people living in other european countries or the gypsies or whoever do a goddamn thing to deserve what was done to them

i honestly don't know where you come up with this shit

oh last thing, it was not the german army which did this, it was the entire german nation at work, from schools to corporations to private citizens

were you homeschooled?

 

Why do you think it's less wrong if every army does it?