Is Nationalism A Good Thing?

Some of my best friends are bots. They never lie to me.

 

Do they have nationalistic tendencies? (trying to keep this thread on topic )

 

History will only tell you...






...yes. Just don't lose.

 

Pay no mind to the images of the Holocaust, those are merely the premeditated fabrications of the Jewish Illuminatis made to corner Europe and the rest of the world into supporting the creation of Zion. The same way the devil buried dinosaur fossils all throughout the globe, to test Christian faith and piss them off.

 

Unfortunately this is where it goes. Communist or socialist or Republican it all ends up in that dark place when nationalism becomes a guiding force.

 

^reminds me of a quote I shared from The Unbearable Lightness of Being in the book quote thread -

She would have liked to tell them that behind Communism, Fascism, behind all occupations and invasions lurks a more basic, pervasive evil and that the image of that evil was a parade of people marching with raised fists and shouting identical syllables in unison.

 

Maybe it'll work the second time around if done with better actors. I meant leaders.

Like when a dumb movie idea falls flat on its face at screening, but producers somehow manage to muster the stupidity to try their hand at a sequel of the same shit that never took off in the first place.

 

A non nationalistic culture has NEVER survived. Very simple , universalism / globalism results in genocide.

 

There are so many nationalist social castes these days that so many social media pages aren’t around anymore.
One of the staff here was quite upset at a fb page been taken down.

 

The physics prevent it from going too far. Capitalism is already imploding as we speak, with 40% of all Wall Street transactions conducted by computers, every bureaucrat in DC already capable of being replaced with AI, and the entire Chinese electronics assembly line is being automated. The technology itself is advancing faster than our economies can adjust, and we will be forced to put the computers in charge of everything. You either have the guns or the money or both, and the computers are better with both than any human being could ever be.

The computers use analog logic, and self-organizing systems logics describing everything imaginable are the next scientific revolution.

 

Also I think if you believe in nationalism i reckon you are racist.

 

Racism is nothing more than economics. Sadly, it is illegal to throw large sums of money off the tops of tall buildings, and if the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world were all coal black everyone would be working on their tan. White people have even artificially created racism where there was none, simply for economic purposes. However, racism appears to be a natural outgrowth of the fact that, until recently, most people were lucky if they traveled a hundred miles from home and many of the people they saw on their travels were relatives. Centuries ago in Africa some tribes had to teach their children to beware of white men offering gifts and jobs.

 

And could I add cultural suicide as well? It seems some folk in Western Civilization are so self hating that they absorb other cultures in a mosaic form. Can you say lost Heritage?

 

People are complete idiots, and organize like chickens, because its the only way they can maintain any kind of order in the vast numbers they work in. The trick has been to either break them up into little tiny villages, or give them as much technology as possible to help them organize better. That technology is about to become a hard science based on first principles and include AI.

 

So the nuanced and more accurate conclusion is that nationalistic individuals can be ok and even good, but nationalism almost always becomes problematic or even bad as the most important guiding force of a strong majority.

 

In other words, extremism is b-a-d.

 

Extremism only thrives in gross economic inequality. The minute a country has an extensive social safety network extremism all but vanishes, along with a host of other social problems.

 

Organized/collective extremism is pretty much always bad. On an individual level it depends on what kind of extremism i think. But nationalism on itself can not blatantly be equated with extremism as you can be moderate or sensible nationalistic.

 

I know I risk getting into a semantics argument here but
I've always thought "moderate or sensible nationalism" as just patriotism
Patriotism=pride in country
Nationalism=putting the interests of one's country above all else

That's how I've always defined and differentiated between the two

 

What makes you think it's self hate or hate for their own culture? I see people who are in favor of a multicultural society (which our cities had in a functioning form for centuries already btw) sometimes being critical on their ancestors practices but that's not hate for their whole culture or self, just certain historic aspects we already have left behind, or certain actions you wouldnt want to be s ubjected to either (so not a hate a for own culture, but for certain unfair practices)
Maybe you could give some concrete examples.