Is music the problem?

Jaitaiyai · Feb 19, 2009

neim said:

call me crazy but this thread feels like 1992.
why would music be a problem? didn't we cover this already?
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FUCK YOU - I WAS BORN IN '93!

.. It's true.

KTTurnstile · Feb 19, 2009

Nova?! said:

so i haven't read about every tragedy that they have blamed on music,
but the thing is, most of it is about the "distraught individual" is being picked on, or has something leading it on. i dont hear much music telling kids to go shoot up schools.
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Oh, it happens regularly. Every time some nutty kid goes off the handle and decides to expel a little hot-lead rage at some classmates, the first thing the media grabs onto is what he was listening to, what he was watching, the video games he was playing, etc. etc. ad nauseum. This goes all the way back to the 80s when they tried to pin a suicide on Judas Priest. It's all crap...I couldn't agree more with the people who have consistently asked the question "where were the parents?"

ToFunToDie · Feb 19, 2009

Nova?! said:

I'm not mch into Rap or hip-hop or whatever you wanna call it..
BUT i was in my friends car, and this song came on, called "The way I am" by Eminem. Just listening to the words..

"Sometimes I just feel like my father, I hate to be bothered
With all of this nonsense it's constant
And, "Oh, it's his lyrical content -
- the song 'Guilty Conscience' has gotten such rotten responses"
And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately
Points a finger at me (finger at me)..
So I point one back at 'em, but not the index or pinkie
Or the ring or the thumb, it's the one you put up
When you don't give a fuck, when you won't just put up
With the bullshit they pull, cause they full of shit too
When a dude's gettin bullied and shoots up his school
And they blame it on Marilyn (on Marilyn).. and the heroin
Where were the parents at? And look where it's at
Middle America, now it's a tragedy
Now it's so sad to see, an upper class ci-ty
Havin this happenin (this happenin)..
Then attack Eminem cause I rap this way (rap this way)."

Isn't it true though? whenever there is a problem with the teen society, they blame it on the music. but where exactly are the parents in these situations? the teachers? the peers? i dunno about you, but Music calms me down.

I wanna hear your thoughts. but i dont want "your just a stupid teenager" cause i get that enough.
- Novaaaa.:hat:
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What a fucking great song.
Music doesn't cause anything.

Nova?! · Feb 19, 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nova?! View Post
I'm not mch into Rap or hip-hop or whatever you wanna call it..
BUT i was in my friends car, and this song came on, called "The way I am" by Eminem. Just listening to the words..

"Sometimes I just feel like my father, I hate to be bothered
With all of this nonsense it's constant
And, "Oh, it's his lyrical content -
- the song 'Guilty Conscience' has gotten such rotten responses"
And all of this controversy circles me
And it seems like the media immediately
Points a finger at me (finger at me)..
So I point one back at 'em, but not the index or pinkie
Or the ring or the thumb, it's the one you put up
When you don't give a fuck, when you won't just put up
With the bullshit they pull, cause they full of shit too
When a dude's gettin bullied and shoots up his school
And they blame it on Marilyn (on Marilyn).. and the heroin
Where were the parents at? And look where it's at
Middle America, now it's a tragedy
Now it's so sad to see, an upper class ci-ty
Havin this happenin (this happenin)..
Then attack Eminem cause I rap this way (rap this way)."

Isn't it true though? whenever there is a problem with the teen society, they blame it on the music. but where exactly are the parents in these situations? the teachers? the peers? i dunno about you, but Music calms me down.

I wanna hear your thoughts. but i dont want "your just a stupid teenager" cause i get that enough.
- Novaaaa.
you are too young to have an opinion, don't care that you don't want to hear it, it's true.

music is a reflection, record companies probably do have an agenda beyond the basic make as much money as possible

but not enough of one for it to fucking matter.

tilt at real windmills.

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Originally Posted by Nova?! View Post
and okay, if there is music telling you to shoot up schools, then why are they blaming it on marilyn manson?
why aren't they blaming it on these other bands?
because HE IS AN EASY TARGET

think of the target audience of people who are accusing him

okay, now, think some more, because, I still don't think you've made it past the superficial bits

okay, got it yet?

people have heard of marilyn manson, there was a thread of information to be used, they went after it, it was cheap, it was easy, it was expedient, and it was profitable

no one was trying to shut down marilyn manson, he doesn't matter, it's only the money that does.

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Wow. the maturity level is astounding...
you do realize you are talking to a lot of people who, are in fact more mature than you, and only mocking you because, you take yourself too seriously?

you don't matter, you will either stop being a newfag (and, I suspect by the volum of your newfagetree do not know that term, so, I'm going to say google it and go with the encyclopedia dramatica link) or you will dissappear.

the shit you are saying has been said a thousand times before, and will be said a thousand times again, and your way of saying it fails to stand out.

not to mention, you posted in random thoughts, and, as much as I hate to invoke this

LURK MOAR

seriously, you could have chosen people with the same perspective as you on this very forum, more than 400 of them, it's not too hard, and you walk in here, RT of ALL the places.

that's just fucking stupid.
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I laughed quite a bit at this.

I'M taking myself to seriously? BAHA. I just wanted to hear peoples thoughts on what they think about the situation. Sorry i dont have 1000's of posts on here.

"you are too young to have an opinion, don't care that you don't want to hear it, it's true."
but then you say
"you do realize you are talking to a lot of people who, are in fact more mature than you, and only mocking you because, you take yourself too seriously?"

WOW! and this shows how mature you are.
but i'm done with you and your arrogance.
so take it and leave. I wasn't here for people to start ragging on everyone else because we all see different views. again, maturity level slowly decreasing in everyone.

So keep thinking that your unnecessary words are going to keep me up at night, and have a wonderful evening.

zilla939 · Feb 19, 2009

Jaitaiyai said:

FUCK YOU - I WAS BORN IN '93!

.. It's true.
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MrDot · Feb 19, 2009

Ill Bill-The anatomy of a school shooting

This song though actually makes the shooters not look so bad, really though kids have their reasons. If teachers and shit would quit playing favorites and quit ignoring all the bullying then the numbers would drop, untill then OH WELL. I don't go to school so I don't give a shit, if they believe their reason is good enough then all the power to em. It's really good for slimming the population as well.

GLENGLEN · Feb 19, 2009

Dave_techie said:

you are too young to have an opinion, don't care that you don't want to hear it, it's true.

music is a reflection, record companies probably do have an agenda beyond the basic make as much money as possible

but not enough of one for it to fucking matter.

tilt at real windmills.

because HE IS AN EASY TARGET

think of the target audience of people who are accusing him

okay, now, think some more, because, I still don't think you've made it past the superficial bits

okay, got it yet?

people have heard of marilyn manson, there was a thread of information to be used, they went after it, it was cheap, it was easy, it was expedient, and it was profitable

no one was trying to shut down marilyn manson, he doesn't matter, it's only the money that does.

you do realize you are talking to a lot of people who, are in fact more mature than you, and only mocking you because, you take yourself too seriously?

you don't matter, you will either stop being a newfag (and, I suspect by the volum of your newfagetree do not know that term, so, I'm going to say google it and go with the encyclopedia dramatica link) or you will dissappear.

the shit you are saying has been said a thousand times before, and will be said a thousand times again, and your way of saying it fails to stand out.

not to mention, you posted in random thoughts, and, as much as I hate to invoke this

LURK MOAR

seriously, you could have chosen people with the same perspective as you on this very forum, more than 400 of them, it's not too hard, and you walk in here, RT of ALL the places.

that's just fucking stupid.

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Whooooooo.!!...Note To Self..

Never Cross Dave techie....

I Thought I Was Known For Climbing Up On My Milk Crate And Giving

Someone A Serve..

But Even My Best Work, Pales Into Insignificance When Compared To

Dave's..

DAVE IS DA MAN.....O.K.???.......DAVE RULEZ...

Cheers Glen.

Nova?! · Feb 19, 2009

GLENGLEN said:

Whooooooo.!!...Note To Self..

Never Cross Dave techie....

I Thought I Was Known For Climbing Up On My Milk Crate And Giving

Someone A Serve..

But Even My Best Work, Pales Into Insignificance When Compared To

Dave's..

DAVE IS DA MAN.....O.K.???.......DAVE RULEZ...

Cheers Glen.
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Dave could really be a nice guy for all i know. but he was rude

CaptainLS · Feb 19, 2009

I'm about a week of no meds from a killing spree and I know that I listen to music about killing people cause I wanna kill people. I don't wanna kill people cause I listen to the songs. I have no problem with killing alot of people I just dont wanna get caught

Nova?! · Feb 19, 2009

CaptainLS said:

I'm about a week of no meds from a killing spree and I know that I listen to music about killing people cause I wanna kill people. I don't wanna kill people cause I listen to the songs. I have no problem with killing alot of people I just dont wanna get caught
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i think a lot of people get like that sometimes hah
i know ihave

GLENGLEN · Feb 19, 2009

CaptainLS said:

I'm about a week of no meds from a killing spree and I know that I listen to music about killing people cause I wanna kill people. I don't wanna kill people cause I listen to the songs. I have no problem with killing alot of people I just dont wanna get caught
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........................??>>>>>>>>>>>>>:auto:

Cheers Glen.

CaptainLS · Feb 19, 2009

Nova?! said:

i think a lot of people get like that sometimes hah
i know ihave
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Im always like that. thats why I have to take pills every day and see one doc weekly and another monthly

eyeagainsteye · Feb 19, 2009

egg raid on mojo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL8oMbpkD5U&feature=related

prissbaby · Feb 20, 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC52mfsugOc

CaptainLS · Feb 20, 2009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2M6cRWdGc8

prissbaby · Feb 20, 2009

CaptainLS said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2M6cRWdGc8
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no

CaptainLS · Feb 20, 2009

prissbaby said:

no
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I told my boss I'd burn his house down once and he knew I was atleast 15% serious

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