Is LSD important to the salvation of mankind?

i think so.

personally lsd has had a positive impact on my life, and i believe that it has stimulated a great deal of personal growth for me. i am sure some people here can relate. which is why i say that lsd is important for the salvation of mankind. because of the potential that the psychedelic experience has for growth, and healing. i wouldn't want to live without it, or endorse a worldview that doesn't support lsd use. i support the legalization of lsd too.

anyone else have any thoughts on this?

 

i would 100% agree. any psychedelic for that matter. u should read Food Of The Gods. by Terrence McKenna. it talks about this subject alot

 

salvation from what? i don't think we're ever doomed in the first place.

 

salvation from the current state of our society. i think that lsd could bring positive changes in the world if it was not illegal.

while society has come a long way, we still have a long way to go.

and from the corruption that is in the hearts of men. if you don't see the corruption, i hope you will one day.

 

Lsd completely changed me. I cant say whether is was totally positive or negative but im just different now. Im more happy to be who i am, yet i know im less "cool" simply because i quit caring about being the "cool" guy and worry now about being who i really am. Its like lsd showed me the way ide be happiest in the long run after meeting new people who accept me for myself rather than being a sheep trying to be friends with the coolest sheep.

I do view the world in a very different way since expanding my mind.
I believe it definitely has its benefits but also set me up for a struggle adapting to my current groups of friends etc who just dont understand, cant process an explanation, and are still living in a world where the opinions of strangers, girls, guys, friends, are the most important things in their lives.

 

Also i feel the hunter s thompson quote from the end of the movie fear and loathing in las vegas is a very good description of the cons of expanding your mind. It leaves you sort of crippled to the rest of the worlds ways.

 

No.

I think it probably just makes people passive and prevents them from taking action.
You can't make the world a better place without taking action.

 

yea i can relate to that. but the people that you can relate to are other people that have been through similar experiences.

i don't relate well to alot of people, because my life experiences have brought me to a pretty far away place from that of the perception of alot of people. but that doesn't mean i'm alone in my worldview, it just means that it is harder to find people that are on the same level.

it leaves you crippled to the ways of the world because you have reached a higher level of being.

good point. i think that lsd can lead to complacency sometimes, but i think it can also lead to inspiration that might cause action. i wonder if there was a study done what percentage of people would become complacent and what percentage would become inspired.

 

i agree with ur above statements 100%

 

When I was tripping REALLY hard one time, it came to me as a vision of a ying yang symbol, one side was clean and had towers on it, the other had colorful psychedelia on it. I felt strongly that the dichotomy of 'the man' and 'the people' is as old as civilization and that it serves a real purpose and that this dichotomy will last as long as civilization does. I thought of it as a tug-of-war, sometimes the patriarchy has more power, sometimes the people have more power. The patriarchy is the male brain and the people against control systems are female brain. Neither side really wins, sure the elite have many possessions, but they will never be happy, and the underclass are in a much better position to avoid corruption and find happiness, but they have to work for it. It seems stupid, I am a democratic socialist politically, and I believe things should be a lot better, and I believe things CAN change to some degree, but I also see the people LIKE me before me, and their wisdom basically says that WE are necessary to keep control systems in check, but that the control systems are necessary to some degree also. I'm not sure where I stand yet, what does everyone think of that trip?
I've also had many of those trips that feel like "THIS COULD ALL BE OURS IF WE JUST STOPPED FIGHTING EACHOTHER OVER IT", and I feel more powerful in those trips, but they might just not be real. If EVERYONE tried acid, things would be different, but too many powerful people have vested interest in that NOT happening for that to be realistic.

EDIT: During the same trip I had a vision that there was a New World Order style takeover, but that it was ultimately a necessary in a global revolution. Right now it would be REALLY difficult to unify all the nations in revolt.

 

yes alot of powerful people have invested into psychedelics being illegal, but sacred use of entheogens should still be protected by the first amendment.

check out this link for a history of court rulings about religious practice, psychedelics come right after the religious use of snakes. some of these court rulings are just scary!

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/madison/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/vol4ch4.pdf

 

No, western society doesn't need lsd to change and it certainly doesn't wipe out corruption no matter how many people have a positive spiritual change from an lsd trip. Some people conclude after tripping that nothing matters, so they don't necessarily perceive corruption as corruption anymore, just as a legit thing to sustain themselves in the world. Besides that not all lsd users get a mellow and reasonable worldview not everyone is going to take it anyway. So most likely not important for mankind, just for certain individuals.

 

That is a good way of thinking about it. I really don't think most people are ready anyway, if psychedelics were to be unleashed on the world, it would have to be to a generation that was EDUCATED about psychedelics, and not only psychedelics but also meditation and controlling your own thoughts. The male brain will do what it takes to survive, if the ego is too unbalanced and large, people will go much further than they need to survive. I don't know if I believe in a good and evil, but I think of any system that controls people and tricks people and owns people is evil, but I think it would be impossible to eradicate because I really do think that greed and egotism is built into our brains, it must be consciously controlled or removed from ourselves. Some people try psychedelics and enter 'god-mode', which is a scary psychological place that also doesn't lead to too much good for anyone.

 

as per the corruption in a single person's heart, i believe that lsd can help one awaken to the inner workings of one's self and overcome the personal tendencies that hinder them and in turn bring them closer to love and truth.

i don't mean "oh well society is just going to be all better now," or that lsd is going to wipe out corruption from society. just that lsd is an important tool for the growth of society because of the impact that it has on the individual, and the impact that the individual has on society. so really where "salvation" is concerned we can only look on the realm on the individual.

in this sense, i believe that lsd is an important part of the personal growth process that occurs during this lifetime. that it is important for bringing people closer to truth and love. maybe some people will never get the chance to use psychedelics, but to deny it seems immoral.

regardless of what the outcome of lsd use is, i still think that the majority of people will still look upon their experiences as being positive. whether you don't perceive corruption as corruption, see that all is one, become a christian, become mellowed out, i still think that most of these people will look back upon their lsd experiences as playing an important role in their life journey.

we have seen that 1 person can change the world. so if lsd is important to even 1 person why is it not important to all of mankind?

 

It would depend on the person, so the individual itself that changes the world is more important than one of the substances he might have tripped on. I'm not saying what you describe in above post can't happen at all, but I don't think mankind depends on LSD in any way. Same with weed. It can be argued Bob Marley wouldn't have the (I think positive) impact he had on the world if he never smoked weed. Does that mean weed is the salvation of mankind or gonna fix society? No, it's the people themselves. It seems to me that a lot of people don't need LSD to find truth and love anyway. That's why LSD remains to be mainly a positive thing on an individual basis.

 

I believe its absolutely paramount, before i tripped I was completely numb to the world, i didnt care and didnt know. LSD changed that completely

 

LSD is very important

 

♥ ♣ Desos... Yes! I AGREE!!! :daisy: ♥ LSD & Psilocybin Shrooms & Mescaline & Peyote & Daily Medatation ... Are ALL Very Important In The "Salvation" ~ Awakening People To Higher Spiritual Consciousness & Profound Universal World Peace & Pure Loving~Kindness Towards ALL Precious Species & Towards Beloved Mother Earth & Towards Each Other!!! ♥ :grouphug: ♥ :sunny: ♣ ♥

 

A person tripping on lsd might certainly think so.

 

Yes. Luckily with the return of studies once again, maybe it is time for a second revolution with it among other psychedelics.