Is it time to talk about guns?

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  1. mcme

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  3. MeAgain

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    So what does this mean?
    Weapons of war?
    Take your weapons of war?
    Regulation of specific guns isn't taking them all of them from you, where did you get that idea?


    I checked five dictionaries and none use your definition of tyranny.
     
  4. FritzDaKatx2

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    Still scrolling to see the issue there,,, but, precisely why the polichickens in Az dont want to fuck with our rights.
    I'll try to find the article later, like literally, came out and said they were afraid to mess with them and this is exaaaactly how "leaders" should feel about the public they serve
     
  5. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Well of course it's a "waste" of your time - it credibly contradicts your accepted worldview which triggers you into cognitive dissonance thus turning you to imagine what he's thinking then attacking your own suppositions.

    It's a hard pill to swallow, but your limited news sources are failing you with their sensational biases. Take the Jan 6 incident where they convince you it was an "armed insurrection" wherein the perpetrators intended to overthrow the duly elected government. When in fact it wasn't armed, nor an insurrection, nor were the people trying to overthrow the govt, nor did they believe the election was legitimate. In fact, they were trying to stop what they were convinced was an insurrection. Big difference.

    But your slanted news conveniently leaves that out in order to outrage you and gain your attention. And people fall for this hook, line, and sinker because it gets their adrenaline up and they develop a sense of purpose from it, feeling good about themselves for standing up for "the right thing". If they gave a neutral coverage of things, the news would be a lot less exciting and things like that would have less divisional impact on people.

    It's like when they report a natural catastrophe, as impactful as it is for those affected, it's not impactful enough on viewers to simply describe the event, so they have to throw in imaginary boogymen such as climate change to give you something to get worked up over. It's their business model and how they get people hooked. Once you see that, you can become more skeptical and less emotionally attached to their reporting, which over time will allow you to be less anxious and more happy.
     
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    If you don't see that as " cruel, unreasonable or arbitrary use of power or control ", which is literally the definition of tyranny, then you're blinded by your shepherd's agenda. And that's bahhhhh'd.
     
  7. FritzDaKatx2

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    Already regulated, can't have machine guns.

    To say 1 semi-auto is OK and another not is a purely emotional knee jerk triggered by the relentless hammering of media hype.

    And not to insinuate that you would ever say something as foolish as the below "quote" there are certainly those who would

    To which the only response there will ever be,,,



    Be happy with M60's & bump stocks :rolleyes:
     
  8. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    :tearsofjoy: oh hey!

    There's nothing safer than a properly trained person of common sense with a firearm.
    Also,
    There's nothing deadlier than a properly trained person of common sense with a firearm.
     
  9. soulcompromise

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    is that to say they are not rational because they have an emotional connection to mass shooting in the United States, or the world for that matter?

    I remember when I was in London (may 2017) Manchester's Ariana Grande incident occurred...

    And police with automatic weapons stormed the underground. I felt safe and I was glad they were heavily armed and prepared to defend right.

    Should these 'educated militia men' have access to the same firepower?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Funny you should ask, because those guys in your picture do have access but apparently haven't figured out how they work yet as they haven't started shooting back at cops as yet,,,...
    Scary black clothes & scary blue flags,,,
     
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    at least we're talking about the same thing.

    "Funny" maybe isn't the right word, but I see what you're saying with clarity.

    "Scary". Yes! :)

    You're onto something, but I forget what we're talking about now.

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    That picture is meant to illustrate one of the problems. An armed populace presents a menace to society.

    What if they decide to demonstrate their might by storming the Capitol armed?

    I guess what I'm objecting to ultimately is the AR-15.
     
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    Heck, I forgot how peaceful those gosh durn protests usualy turn out,,,

    A: Ferguson unrest - Wikipedia

    B: When LA Erupted In Anger: A Look Back At The Rodney King Riots
     
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    It's like a war between the far right and the far left, and we're stuck in the mid-band just wishing both groups of extremist binaries could somehow grow brains and begin to think.

    Meanwhile each group of extremists are trying to out-narrative the other with deception, lies, and insults.

    We have mainstream news outlets which take a side and refuse to look at both sides of common issues instead of remaining neutral and leaving the call to the people.
     
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    I'm gettin'rid a'them pesky seat belts. They can't mandate me! ;)
     
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    :tearsofjoy: helmets too, while yet attit.

    What was George Carlin's schtick on seat belts? Something like they're only there to make the cleanup team's work easier. Ahh Carlin.
     
  19. MeAgain

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    Are you saying that elected officials should fear being shot by those they serve?
    Like the French or Russian revolution?

    You feel you have the right to shoot an elected official if you don't like a bill they introduce or a law they vote for.
    You don't believe in a Democratic Republic, just the will of the strongest amongst us?
    You don't believe in the Constitution of the United States in other words?

    BTW, what's a polichicken?
     
  20. MeAgain

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    I was off line for awhile.

    So let me address this.
    First of all cognitive dissonance. I won't spend much time on this as all you're doing is throwing out the latest catch phrase in an attempt to derail the thread.

    Second, I have no idea how you know what my news sources are, so that's that.

    So let's get to Jan. 6.
    The riot/storming of the Capitol building was shown on live TV. I watched it unfold in real time on one of my "limited" news sources.
    Video and coverage is available from many sources including main line news organizations a such as CNN, MSNBC, BBC, Reuters, AP News, ABC, CBS, NY Times, WP, etc. along with many local news sources. In addition it was covered by entertainment sources such as FOX News, YouTube, and many, many other internet sites.

    As far as arms.
    If you can watch any of those videos and not see police officers being beaten with flagpoles, baseball bats, a crowbar, chemical spray, etc. then don't talk to me about cognitive dissonance.
    Not to mention the firearms, pipe bombs, and Molotov cocktails.

    The insurrection.
    So you say,
    The only difference is that they were deluded into thinking the election was fraudulent and that they were the heroes by a conspiracy led by Donald Trump.
    So they stormed the capitol chanting hang Mike Pence becasue he stood up for the Republic and erected a gallows to do so.

    The rest of your post is just is not worth commenting on.
     
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