Is it time to talk about guns?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Mar 24, 2021.

  1. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Maybe it's because they enjoy being irresponsible with their guns... Thus the whole "they want to take my guns" response when somebody mentions background checks.
     
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  2. lion1978

    lion1978 The King

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    I agree.

    I have to say this pun intnded (I do assume)
     
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  3. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    To putting up the number deaths related to drugs and guns as somehow to show that easy access to guns is not so bad because the numbers of those related to drugs is higher it a huge indication of people missing the point

    To me neither figure is an indication of a healthy society and both are problems that should be addressed.

    The thing is many on the right are opposed to those things that could deal with them – such as gun control and increased spending in public services.
     
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  4. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    But is it your priority – because it seems to me from your posts that your priority is to keep the status quo, while only playing lip service to that goal?
     
  5. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Taking aim at what good guys?
     
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  6. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    NO I do not agree. A drug over-dose is an accidental death, not a homicide.
     
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  7. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Soldier on the far right of the photo is a negro. What do you wish to point out which would contribute to a gun discussion? Which government of which country sent you to war in Iraq?
     
  8. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Which province of Iraq did you fight in? On who's side? Which group did you fight?
     
  9. Flagme15

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    Define “good guys”. Do you mean people who violate the law by taking the law into their own hands?
     
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  10. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    With drugs, you don't specify what drugs, you have bad guys selling them for multiple reasons. If you take away or highly restrict the access to guns, the bad guys will not have as many or as easy access to those guns.

    So what is your point?
     
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  11. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    So what country are you from and what sort of gun laws do you have? How many guns are you allowed to own?
     
  12. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

    TrudginAcrossTheTundra Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    You're starting to get it. If you wanted to, you could mull it over while asking yourself how much of your reaction is cognitive dissonance that forces you to reframe things to suit your worldview. One example, you substitute "the government" for government. I think you can tell the difference, at least if you think about it.
     
  13. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

    TrudginAcrossTheTundra Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    You're asking me what does personal responsibility have to do with gun legislation????
    Are you shitting me? C'mon man. You're sounding like you're taking lessons from "that other guy".
     
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  14. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

    TrudginAcrossTheTundra Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    " I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.” ― Margaret Thatcher.
     
  15. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

    TrudginAcrossTheTundra Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    First paragraph is clearly leftists. You know what else leftists do? Accuse the right of doing the very things they're doing.

    Second paragraph demonstrates you've bought into the victim mentality narrative to support large govt.
     
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  16. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

    TrudginAcrossTheTundra Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    From a Brit - 'I just want to help the US get better. No, really.'
     
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  17. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Contrast that statement with all you said to me during the last 4 years.
     
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  18. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    I see where this is going. Flaggie is going to win.
     
  19. Flagme15

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    and what do conservatives do? They make shit up because they don’t have facts to back up their arguments.

    So what you are telling me is that the out of work coal miners in West Virginia(the ones trump promised nonexistent jobs to) can get by on their own, and the farmers that trump gave subsidies to can get by on their own. If the farmers can get by on their own why do they need subsidies? You don’t know what the hell you are talking about.
    Did you accept the stimulus checks? I’m betting yes.
     
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  20. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Trump is their chief maker upper, huh? You just reminded me when Trump and Pence gave all that money to keep a refrigeration company in Indiana. The company took the millions and still went to Mexico. In Wisconsin they never got the jobs promised by Trump. And getting back on track, Trump's supporters did carry guns on their belts when the entered the Senate Chambers.
     
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