Is it time to talk about guns?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Mar 24, 2021.

  1. lion1978

    lion1978 The King

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    I think you meant to say "Are you denying that a gun is a more dangerous weapon than a tv?"

    Sorry for the interferrence
     
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  2. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Thanks Lion - I have corrected
     
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  3. Cello Song

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    Thanks!

    As soon as COVID restrictions are lifted, it is anticipated that these American consumers will hand over this money to major corporations for profitable products and services and thereby stimulate the economy possibly as early as June 2021.

    The local mom & pops will not benefit as much since many are gone forever.

    It will probably happen. The recipients will get at least the same level of service that our veterans enjoy today.

    Education is in need of serious reform.

    It's a kinder, gentler tyranny. You are even free to chose your own surveillance device!

    Trust the government. They are only here to help.

    When it happens, let's hope so!
     
  4. Cello Song

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    Do you have any sources quantifying your assertion that soil quality is negatively-impacted by bowling-alley cigarettes and basketball?
     
  5. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Cello

    The question was - are you saying you are opposed to public heath regulations? You want your society to be more dangerous to people’s health?

    Your reply was - People should be free to play in the dirt.

    Are you now saying you do or you don’t opposed public heath regulations?

     
  6. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Shane

    What was in this list of proposals -

    Any gun kept at home, place of work or in a motor vehicle would have to be held in a secure manner (eg safe or other secure locking system).

    People that didn’t have an approved system would not be allowed to own a gun.


    So yes if the cabinet was up to the specification that were eventually decided on (I’d say hidden and very hard to break into or remove) on then yes it would be an approved system.

    I mean the whole purpose is to try and lessen the possibility of guns falling into the hands of the criminal and irresponsible
     
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  7. Cello Song

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    I am for letting people play basketball and letting places of business permit cigarette-smoking on premises if they want to do that.
     
  8. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Shane

    I don’t know the specifications but if the cabinet was up to the specification that were eventually decided on (I’d say hidden and very hard to break into or remove) on then yes it would be an approved system.
     
  9. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    What laws are unnecessary? Specifically what laws about fire arms are unnecessary?
     
  10. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Al Capone was released from prison due to failing health, otherwise he would have died in prison.

    Al Capone's use of Thompson submachine guns in instances such a the Saint Valentine's Day Massacre, led to the National Firearms Act of 1934 which placed restrictions on machine guns, short barreled weapons, noise suppressors, grenades, bombs, etc.

    That's why you rarely see machine guns and grenades used today by the general public, or criminals for that matter.
    Is the National Firearms Act of 1934 one of the "too many laws"?
     
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  11. Cello Song

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    If we threw them all out, we'd probably be just fine.
     
  12. Cello Song

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    Probably. I trust the public.
     
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  13. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Cello

    I notice you don’t answer the question are you opposed to public health regulations as such or just some public health regulations?
     
  14. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Shane

    And the secure cabinet INSIDE your house is also matching how nice for you.

    Again I’m not sure what your argument is if you actually wish to lessen the possibility of guns falling into the hands of the criminal and irresponsible

    To repeat you said - Why is a locked home not good enough or vehicle not secure enough – in relation to securing a gun

    And I had already explained that If a criminal gets into a house and steals a TV that TV is not a weapon and very unlikely to be used as one - so I think a gun which is a very lethal weapon needs to be more securely locked away than a TV

    Are you denying that a gun is a more dangerous weapon than a TV?
     
  15. Cello Song

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    Some would be the safest answer; who has time to read all of the tiny laws? Only the attorneys of the guilty corporations. Most are probably rubbish. Regulations around the safe handling of sewage and toxic waste are important. Mine safety and OSHA regulations are nice but tend to be disregarded in practice. Stuff that oppresses only working class people should be tossed.
     
  16. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Cello

    Are you saying that you think that the larger number of gun related homicides in the US is not down to easy access to more lethal weapons but down to the US having a much larger numbers of ‘evil’ people than other countries with much lower gun related homicides and much lower access to guns?
     
  17. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Cello

    Like well so most public health regulations are well like maybe important or good or nice but….I don’t really know….like….well like….you know….but….oh look at the bird….
     
  18. Cello Song

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    The more murderers you have, the more murders there are. I consider murder to be 'evil', as you put it.
    Have a blessed day! :mask:
     
  19. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Shane

    So your argument is that you think a TV is just as dangerous a weapon as a gun and so a gun does not need to be more securely locked away as a TV

    How is that a rational argument?

    I mean are you saying you would be as happy to hand a 5-year-old child a loaded gun as you would the remote to the TV?

    That if a thief got into your house and stole some items you would be as equally worried that your stolen TV might be used to kill someone as you would the gun you had out that was also stolen?

    I don't own a gun
     
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  20. Balbus

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    Cello

    So your argument is that the higher homicide rate in the US compared with other similar countries is due to Americans been more ‘evil’ than other people?
     

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