Is it time to talk about guns?

First off I dont own a gun BUT if I did why should I need to do this we have NO children and no children EVER have access to our house so I heartily disagree with above IF I choose to own a gun it would be because I live in a rural area and IF a situation arose where someone was breaking in to my house having my gun and ammo locked up and stored would make it useless..
the police response time where I am at is 10-15 in an emergency

 

violent felons should not have access to guns
fully automatic should be at least severely restricted ( but I believe they already are)
Im not a fan of handguns, Ive never enjoyed shooting them and hunting with them is questionable but....... I believe there is a "cooling off" period on the purchase of handguns which is good
I do enjoy shooting small caliber semi auto long guns its a ball

 

I did not say felons I said VILOENT felons and I am aware that felons cant own guns ( or vote for that matter)
mental capacity is a pretty slippery slope, would a fugitive walk into a store and attempt to purchase a gun? kinda doubtful, dishonorable discharge PROBABLY irrelevant
semi auto vs auto pulling trigger or holding it down, each pull of the trigger is a conscious decision , I just dont know about bump stocks EXCEPT they reduce accuracy which makes hunting/target shooting purposes moot so use/sale should probably go away

 

I think that the answer to "Is is time..." is "it's never time to talk about guns.".

We are resigned to gun violence - "it happens", and there's no real need for change.

That about sum it up?

 

When someone slaughtered 6 adults and 20 six an seven year old children with an assault rifle and nobody did anything about it, I knew this nation was spiritually dead.

 

Huh?
I came looking for firearms enthusiasts and I'm seeing a whole lot of victim mentality drivel. It looks like "talk about guns" is a leftist dog whistle for let's see if we can instill fear into enough people to support a repeal of the second amendment. Turns out the op doesn't even live where the right to bear arms is established. It smacks of jealousy. And a citizen of the country which lost domination over their colony due to their tyrannical comportment and the colonists being armed. So that's telling.

The people who have fallen for this trap of nonsense are either mentally blind or are smart enough to know this is a ploy to escalate government domination of the populace and want it to happen. The latter aren't interested in reduction of violence because the violence helps their cause. Reduction of violence isn't effected by removing firearms from sane, lawful people - that used to be obvious prior to public school unions insisting on dumbing down and indoctrinating the children of the people.

It used to be obvious why the rebels who freed this country from tyranny insisted on a constitutionally mandated right to bear arms. The Marxist sympathizers have managed to muddy the waters enough to sow doubt into the minds of unsuspecting people who simply want a peaceful society. And they're making inroads because most people want peace and harmony - something they'll ironically have less freedom to to enjoy if the Marxist-minded masters manage to pull off their scam.

Americans need to stand against this effort to establish tyranny.

We aren't as dumb as it seems. We simply have had inadequate and faulty education. Something we unwittingly allowed to be brought upon ourselves. It's time to rebuild our trust in the better judgement of the colonists and founders of this nation that, as a result of their foresight establishing a strong independent work ethic, prospered to the point of being the strongest independent force on the planet. It's time to marginalize this shit-show derailing our continued freedom and success.

 

You're post strongly suggests otherwise.

 

You're just saying that because you're indoctrinated.
And since you can't refute it, you resort to impugning the person.
Disingenuous as a result of cognitive dissonance.

 

I think we've a firmly established ally there, Trudg

They may still call us the colonies... Don't let that stop you from forgetting the Revolutionary War.


I don't think enthusiasm for sport is lost on anyone. And I see too how the hobbyist mentality makes weapon collecting interesting.

But it sucks. & hesitant as I am to lump everyone into one group, by & large what I get when I try to reason with people here on the side of the second is ignorance.


The typical response is to ignore what the CDC recommends or may recommend regarding firearms.


And if it happens to be someone who is also on the rather decidedly less intellectual side of say an argument about women in the workplace or transgender in sports or religious affiliation and spirituality, it adds to the animosity felt by anyone with a progressive agenda for changing something for the better based on fact in legislation.





The Second? It's a lost cause. We should vote because there's no talking with them about it. It becomes "come and take 'em".

 

Is that all we are to you though?

I don't think you believe that.

 

Let's be clear though. The colonists and founders are long dead. There vision for a more perfect union necessitated the right to bear arms then. 200 and whatever years ago, it made good sense! Anyone who says "it still does!" is lacking in morality and squarely based judgment in my assessment.

 

Decent reply!


I find it difficult to formulate legislation. You do it like a frog in the water!

 

Heeey @TrudginAcrossTheTundra ,,, just so ya' know, real Marxist-types are not the Gun grabbers you think.
I know "Marxist" has morphed into some nebulous term which means "all things bad & unamerican" thanks to the media rebranding Neoliberals as such BUT the reality is that Ronald Regan was more of an anti-gunner than any real Marxist out there.

Quote by Karl Marx: “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be ...”

 

I form rational arguments using complete sentences and cite sources.
You try to paraphrase Tucker Carlson but only end up with word salad.

 

Reason? What reason?
The CDC and firearms??? WTF No, seriously.
C'mon man, why are you trying to tie unrelated issues together? Smarter people do tend to share common stances on many issues, but not all, because they are exposed to the different sides of issues much more and therefore can form a more informed opinion. Others simply subscribe to dogma and parrot it without any knowledge or consideration of why there is opposition to it. Not all positions are logical on any side of a random issue. That's what independent thinkers have to sort out.
"Come and take em"? My guess is that we'll band together for the forces of good and freedom, and the gun grabbers' efforts will be limited to a certain demographic that's weak and been taught to fear firearms to the point of never having learned to become proficient in their operation. I'm already in a second amendment sanctuary area so from our good citizenry to our local government, we all see the wisdom of the founders. Y'all in those "blue cities" can fight it out among yourselves and live with the consequences.

"We"? Who is that? There are Marxist sympathizers among us. Study the doctrine, and what rational people say about the pros and the cons, and make up your own mind. Again, free thinking.

Anyway, nobody is one thing and "all we are", that's just a way to try to discredit someone you find pushing back at you. Ya gotta start thinking more critically if you're going to make sense. Did you get the book I recommended to you? Self improvement doesn't happen by itself, we have to make the effort.

Morality? Please. Are you a lost sheep?
Do you not comprehend logic, and why it made sense then? How has that same reason changed due to the passage of time? You have some studying to do to get up to speed so your assessments can be taken seriously. What does Marx say about disarming the public?
So much to learn... So little time!

 

Amen sista!

 

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