Is it time to talk about guns?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Mar 24, 2021.

  1. Toecutter

    Toecutter Senior Member

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    As does every major city here as well,
     
  2. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    So how would you deal with the gun related problems of the US?
     
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  4. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    (Source: Met Police/Major Cities Chiefs Association Violent Crimes Survey)

    [edit] this goes with the questions i asked earlier -

    So the question is are Americans more murderous or is it just that Americans have easier access to much more lethal weapons?
     
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  5. Toecutter

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    Enforcement of the laws already on the books, unfortunately the powers that be will often drop the pending charges or releasing the bad guy back into society with a appearance ticket, yes sometimes even the ones that may have committed a homicide , “innocent until proven guilty”
     
  6. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    That's what I am thinking. Let's have a meth user check by a doctor before gun sales and possession. Anyone who is on record for supporting the January 06th insurrection against America should be prevented from gun ownership forever. Anyone known to belong to a gang, should be prevented from gun ownership. Sportsmanship does not translated into the ownership of battle weapons or anti tank rifles. An honest review of the types of guns which could be owned by ordinary citizens should be done carefully. We regulated automatic weapons a while back. Now we need to prevent idiots like that Rottenhouse from owning an AR-15 which is designed for killing humans.
     
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  7. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    You mean like Rottenhouse?
     
  8. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    The Second Amendment can be repealed or changed by way of a Constitutional Convention. That is the Law!
     
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  10. Balbus

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    Then clearly that is not working so try something new as suggested earlier - national laws the same through all the states and a Federal department would be set up to monitor them and make sure they are been enforced equally throughout the country.
     
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  11. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    The 2nd Amendment is a completely pernicious, worse-than-useless legislative artifact from a distant past when we were a confederation of states, had no standing army (but a plethora of armed slave patrols), and the state-of-the-art, standard issue assault weapon had an effective range of 100 meters and a rate of fire of four times a minute.
    Now, we spend more on the military than the next twelve countries combined, and garrison an empire of more than 150 of the 195 countries on the planet. The one and only raison d'etre of the 2nd Amendment; to maintain "a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State", has been a completely moot point for well over 100 years.
    Since 1968, more Americans have been killed by guns than have been killed in all wars in U.S. history. To try to rationalize that carnage by by relying upon a legislative fossil that should've been repealed when high-button shoes and buggy whips were going out of fashion is nothing short of obscene.
    The U.S. Constitution has been amended 27 times. It's far beyond time that we do so again, and properly regulate weapons like every other civilized nation on Earth.
     
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  12. Toecutter

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    The states have the right to govern themselves, totally off topic comparison, but here goes, Marijuana is illegal by Federal laws , but many states are legalizing the using of it, controlling the legal sales and taxation etc.

    Many states are not very gun friendly, while others have very little in the ways of gun laws , it is the powers that be that have passed such laws within the state governments
     
  13. Toecutter

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    By doing away with the 2nd, what would you purpose to do to enforce such ideas?
     
  14. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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  15. stormountainman

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    Don't forget that guns in the arms of white settlers exterminated most of the indigenous people who were the rightful owners of this continent.
     
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  16. Piobaire

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    Ask Australia and New Zealand for starters.
     
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    Which pretty much negates the 14th Amendment, or is the 2nd Amendment the only one that counts? What about that whole "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" thing? Why the fuck should somebody's alleged right to own a mass murder machine supersede my right not to be massacred at work, or the movies, or Wal-Mart, or the grocery store, or the mall, or the pub...or to send my child to elementary school (or high school, or college) with the reasonable expectation that they come home at the end of the day?
     
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    Australia has the same population as Florida

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    Crash Deaths in the US: Where We Stand
     
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    What is your definition of a Real American ?
     

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