Is it time to talk about guns?

Well George Kinda Agreed with this
George Carlin - It's a big club and you ain't in it - Bing video

 

he was a based man

 

Wasn't the Waco siege a result of a religious cult shooting and killing 4 ATF agents when they attempted to conduct a search and arrest order because of suspicion of illegal weapons? or did I miss something.

 

I editted the post, there is not strong evidence of who started the arson there and I didn't want to derail the thread debating who did what.

 

Cool, I just wasn't completely sure because I'm not american and it's not something we learn about in school, I just rememered hearing about it.

 

Pray tell what is your source for your information?

 

Is the title of this thread disingenuous? After all talking about guns could mean many things such as , What's the best deer rifle or what do you like for skeet shooting.
In reality this thread is about gun laws/gun control which we already have here as does pretty much everywhere in varying degrees of effectiveness.
So with the above being said its actually about MORE laws and MORE control.
Does more law equal less freedom?
Does Prohibition work?

The first known mass shooting in the U.S. where students were shot, was on April 9, 1891, when 70 year old, James Foster fired a shotgun at a group of students.

This stuff has a much longer history then most realize
History of School Shootings in the United States | K12 Academics

Dating back to the 1700's

Im guessing its a pretty safe assumption that keeping guns out of the hands of people who would do such acts is desirable. Achieving such while simple in principle becomes much harder in practical application

is that going to prevent this
Axeman of New Orleans - Wikipedia

Are we going to outlaw axes?
Mass stabbing - Wikipedia

Knives?

Most are ( I think ) looking to outlaw military type weaponry ( ak and semi auto type ) which point being is NOT a panacea

 

Years of research.

 

Wrat we have been through all that before – again why bring up arguments you couldn’t defend the last few times you tried them?

Once again you just come across as been deeply dishonest

I mean why you know the arguments are going to fail because they failed every other time so why try them again – I know you have no better defence – so why – is it just to pretend – or to stretch things out - or what?

 

Why - it has been done in other places

And for the umpteenth time a knife or an axe is not the same as a much more lethal firearm.

 

And the answer to this thread's original question is apparently still no

 

You think me saying 9/11 being an inside job is dishonest?

Here is what the world has to say about your forum


What an echo chamber, I was already told you were hired here for some agenda.

 

What boulder have you been living under if you think 9/11 wasnt an inside job?

You know for a forum of hippies they seem strangely trusting of government.

Why is it that trump is the first president to celebrate pride, yet gets blamed for covid.

Meanwhile george w bush is anti-gay marriage but somehow saying "bush did 9/11" is taboo? Its almost like the media caused people to hate trump more than bush.
Trump praised as 'pro-gay marriage' by loyal appointee

 

Somehow i think if i provided evidence of 9/11 inside job it would form a long debate and then you'd blame me for derailing thread. So I'm not going to discuss it in this thread.

 

Does whats going on in Myanmar count?

Guns in Myanmar — Firearms, gun law and gun control (gunpolicy.org)
Number of Privately Owned Firearms
ChartThe estimated total number of guns (both licit and illicit) held by civilians in Myanmar is
2017: 877,0001
2007: 2,000,0002

Compare
Rate of Civilian Firearm Possession per 100 Population[/paste:font]
Chart
The estimated rate of private gun ownership (both licit and illicit) per 100 people in Myanmar is

2017: 1.61
2007: 4.02


Firearms and the law in Myanmar | Frontier Myanmar

US embassy staff leaving Myanmar amid risk of civil unrest | Military News | Al Jazeera
More than 520 civilians have been killed in two months of protests against the February 1 coup, 141 of them on Saturday, the bloodiest day of the unrest, according to the Assistance Association for Political Prisoners (AAPP).

 

Idk, everyone?

I thought a lot of people here talk about human rights, and now all of a sudden during this discussion you suddenly act like human rights violations can no longer be defined?