Is it ok for children to view child porn?

Dude, im not saying its wrong for kids to EXPLORE. But as i already stated, they discover in their own time, gradually, when theyre ready...How the hell is a fully grown man imposing sexual acts on a 2 year old, a 4 year old, an ELEVEN year old OKAY!?

And even if the child appears to be interested...come on! How much does the child KNOW about sex to be able to make that choice? Do they know about STI's? Pregnancy? Dominance and power issues which the adult may carry? The list is endless...a kid doesnt know ENOUGH about sex to be able to choose

Im offended at your response. I already stated i am open-minded, im a childcare worker and i fight for children rights every day. I never supress their instinct to explore...but adults abusing their position of power, which is EXACTLY WHATS HAPPENING, and filiming it and...Jesus are you SERIOUSLY suggesting thats ok?

 

P.s-prejudice and assumptions?

If you mean prejudice against men who watch or actually get a kick out of child por, or who actually film it, then even to that i say no, i am not prejudiced. Sure i disagree and it should be STOPPED. But i dnt believe theyre "evil" or anything...lost souls, who need help, yes

Assumptions? Ive lived through a lot concerning this, dont take that away from me

 

what i'm suggesting is not ok is the conclusion you are jumping to. the question was whether or not "children" should be "allowed" to "view" "porn".

THAT is the question i was responding to. (one in which, neither "children" nor "child porn" were in any way rationaly defined!)

not whether or not 3 year olds "should" be defacto raped, or any of the rest of the nonsence you seem to be taking my responses as endorsing, which i do not, for the life of me see, where or how, you can get THAT out of ANYTHING i've actualy said.

and i'm sorry but i do maintain that christianity and islam are both equaly evil and false religeons in this context and reguard.

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Christianity and Islam? Im not a christian or a muslim dude

As your repsonse to that exact question wasnt in the negative and you continually fought my views then yes, i assumed you believed that child porn was ok. Seeing as you also believed children should be able to view it. Which would indicate you believe it should exist

"child porn" brings up many varied images for me (unfortunately, as ive said, i have been highly exposed) I do realise it doesnt necessarily mean 3 year olds, which would be why I CONTINUALLY STATED THIS

When it comes to children and porn, its really not a time to be a smartass in your posts, picking up on shit people say and scrutinising. The definitions didnt HAVE to be clear..."child pron" covers the whole spectrum, which is WHY I CONTINUALLY STATED I realised the difference between consentual 16 year old porn and porn involving younger children

So please, whats your point?

 

P.s-yeah i got the whole Jesus reference thing etc blah...please read the section abovbe about being a smartass

 

the one thing i DO aggree with you whole heartedly about, and i'm sorry but "smartass" is another of those prejudicial undifined terms, is that far too many "adults" do have way too little mutual honor and respect for "children"

(and you don't have to subscribe to a system of belief to express, perhapse without realizing it, a reflection of its dominance, or the dominance of how a majority of its members perceive it, of the cultural values you are surrounded by!)

i would also go on to say, that ambiguity about the differences between an 11 year old and a 3 year old, is just plain simply dishonesty!

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Yes, they do, unfortunately
Smartass may have been the wrong word but im tired and have a cold

We can learn lots from children...i think i may get what you meant a little. I dont like the thought of adult control all the time, squeezing them into the right mould, telling them what to do, whats right, whats wrong...
But i cant change my view that porn and all adult sexual activity should never involve an unready child, for the good and health of everyone involved. Maybe you agree. It seems hard to tell with you

Anyway i have the utmost respect for the children and im glad you agree about this

 

Ive never met an 11 year old who was full into puberty and was ready for full sexual activity...but im guessing im not going to win this one with you, so ill just state that as my opinion and that only

 

if only the mold they were being squezed into WERE "the right mold" i wouldn't get half as upset as i get by these kinds of my own buttons being pushed.

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Nah i ont believe its the right mould...i meant its what THEY see as the right mould...you are picky with the words, arent you! A real eye for detail...i wish i had that sometimes

 

i would never knowingly cause avoidable suffering and harm to anyone of ANY age; young , old, or inbetween. my objection is to the REAL suffering and harm that REALLY IS being caused on the pretense of preventing it.

is a way of life that creates a market and incentive for the brutalizing of life we have witnessed our planet undergoing for no moraly legitimate gain for anyone for the past five years, one that resaults from the RIGHT way for children to be influenced by their parents?

i don't mean to keep ragging on this, but i for one SERIOUSLY DO NOT think so.

so please, i'm not meaning to pick on you, or anyone, but if there is anything truely and devistatingly wrong, it is what have devolved to become today the core values of american society and the perpetuation of them.

when the what was the worst of european society came to the western hemisphere it added to itself the worst of what was already here, throwing out the best of both with the bath water. i'm not saying the revealers of organized monotheistic belifs didn't mean well, but what we've got is what we've got and we've really got to do our homework, to understand the connection between how all our priorites, the ones we actualy live by, add to gather, to create the incentives and markets that give us what we today have.

everything ties into that. this is why i cannot let ambiguities on sensitive issues just lie there and continue to mold all of us, in precisely the WRONG way.

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ialways liked older grrls. more curves.if you gave me a choice at 14 between seein naked 14 yr olds n 18 to 30 year olds i would go fer 18 to 30.ive been with 2 17 n a half year olds in my life outta 120ish. thats the youngest.i doubt most teens wanna see other teens naked if they had a choice.i was never interested in porn till i was 21 anyhoo.too busy getting drunk to masterbate.i use porn to avoid cheating or to jerk off to chicks i could never lay.like paris hilton. if she spoke my cock would shrivel.stupid sisters make me limp. unless there mongoloids or flipper babies spastics autistic schitzoid or otherwise handicapped. i REALLY LOVE THE HANDICAPPED!

 

121 and L.A.

Re read this please. Three or ten times.

 

Exacty. A victimless "crime" is not a crime in my mind. Logically I just cannot see it.

Does that make the person SICK? Quite possibly but in my mind being sick is not a crime and I dont understand how it can be.

 

That is where a sickness could come into play. Which would mean the person would need counseling, not punishment.

 

What if a child was creating it? The said "child" was in their teens?

For a teen audience.

 

I know that, but I think they should be treated the same! Don't patronise me for disagreeing with you, love. Call me old fashioned, but if I met some guy who wanks off over children, I wouldn't hesitate to put a pint over his face. I wouldn't feel sympathy for him just because he "can't help it".

 

The day a THOUGHT or a FEELING becomes a crime is the day America may as well salute "Sieg Heil!"

 

I am not patronizing you... and if it appears that way then I apologize seriously. As I mentioned earlier, I have little tolerance for any type of sexual predators because it has touched close to home. However, I strongly believe in reform and people changing and not being barbaric.

I dont have to agree AT ALL with an act (the act of viewing child porn) but Ill defend that person against the sharks (the people who have been hurt by predators) BECAUSE those people are not predators. They are sick and IF they dont act and get help, so be it. It doesnt make it okay but its barbaric... just killing people or locking them up for thoughts without a change of rehabilitation.

There is a reason loved ones of rape/molestation victims dont appear on juries.

 

And as an afterthought, I despise racists to no end but yes, I would defend their right to congragate (no matter what type of racist, all the same really).... as long as an action is not committed, then I'd be all for action ON them.

The only way for positive change to ever occur anyway is open communication, understanding (listening), that way you can let your little light shine and light up the city and then the world.