Is hate ever justified?

Your right zen impossible not to have felt hate at some point. It's what you do or say next that counts. Choosing to proceed with hate or choosing to accept the situation or person and move on. I would rather not be involved than wanting to hate but rather dislike and look for better things.

 

not every harmful thing happens by intent. but there is one thing, that people have conned each other and themselves, and that's this idea that aggressive inconsiderateness is any kind of freedom or creates it or defends it, which is just exactly backwards, and is at the root of most of the harm that is caused. aggressive inconsiderateness if anything, is at the root, statistically, of authritarian tyranny. its what makes that possible, and this is really all of the "evil" that there is.

 

I hate people who go out of their way to make others miserable. They get some kind of enjoyment from it, which is I guess sadism. And there's a fairly large segment of the population that is like that. I hate that that's the way the world is. I mean, if it was just maybe five or ten percent of the population, it wouldn't be that disturbing, but it's a good 40% or even more. WTF kind of world is this? Then again, history shows that the world is f*cked.

I also hate opera.

 

Unless it was child abuse, sometimes we hate ourselves for not defending ourselves adequately -- especially when we're perfectly capable. And then it eats at you and consumes you with hate and anger until you can exact revenge, and only then does the hate subside.

Or so I've heard.

 

Oh.


I see...

No, I don't think it is. I'm saying be a pacifist and take "turn the other cheek" literally and figuratively very seriously.

I don't think there's any room for hate; not in life, and not ever under any circumstance. Is it excusable? No, I don't think it is. You have alternatives. Use them.

 

I just got the impression that you were trying to make Hippies look like hypocrites, which is a tactic I often see with Republicans on HF who wish to disrupt.

 

I think I hate confusion.
Just saying.

 

Oh no that wasn't my intention. I don't even identify as Republican OR Democrat. I was just a bit confused is all because I thought hippies had this "love everyone" mindset. Maybe I was misinformed and if I was, I apologize. Maybe it's some hippies who has the "love everyone" mindset but not all hippies. I think of myself as a hippie or as part of the peace and love culture and I like the idea of loving everyone but it is difficult sometimes with the kind of people that are in the world, sadly. </3

 

I have said on a forum here that I have had no problem ginning up hate for those that are destroying this country--particularly republicans. These feelings are fairly recent to me and I can remember the pacifist attitude I had back in the 60s,70s. If someone were to cause me harm--so be it. Retaliation and/or hate was not my way of thinking then. The hippy ethos of the time was hopeful ---was a worthy goal --was love exemplified. Forgive and forget. Love your transgressors. I think those of us that went through those times have always had a difficult time when seeing how--in the long run--not much of a difference was made in society by our actions/attitudes. There was much good in our interpersonal actions. But, there is still plenty of hate to go around. Politics aside, troublesome people can be handled by avoidance-- hate does not have to enter into it. Time and distance will dull the pain of hate.

I think some of my attitude concerning pacifism changed when I had children. When one sees the horrible things that can be done to innocent children ( and animals ,for that matter), by those with bad brain "wiring ", a subtle , but unmistakable change begins to take place in ones psyche concerning actions that MUST be taken to protect against such. The feeling becomes--"the home needs to be protected. The children need to be watched over and protected. I can't be passive and perhaps allow some damaged human being to play god with me and and the lives of my loved ones. " Then comes the gun purchase. Not bought with hate, but such a different thought process than back when we looked upon transgressors with love, to show how hate could/should be handled. Oh, how different it is knowing now--that I could take a life if threatened. Life is full of dichotomies---but choices have to be made every day of ones life. Most of these choices, I believe , depend on what we think we deserve in the moment.

Back to politics for a second--I don't REALLY hate those that have no respect for the democratic experiment in which we're living here. I think they are very misguided and on a fools journey. The results of their foolishness will affect us all in one way or another.

Back to personal--just do the best you can do day by day, love those you can--avoid those you can't. (AND VOTE AS IF YOUR WELL BEING DEPENDS ON IT. IT DOES)

 

I don't Love hard and don't Hate hard.....very seldom use those words....but do love my daughter and grandkids......Like my friends a LOT.

 

Just because the will is there it doesn't necessarily make it so. This is my challenge as a Christian and a human, probably the biggest one. Certainly there are politicians and others who do not have the best interest of others on their minds, and in fact some specifically wish others harm. How do you treat such people? I don't have an answer.

 

I think it's easy to "love everybody" if it's possible to ignore a shyt ton of people that are complete morons. When those people start getting in your face, all bets are off.

 

hating hatred is not illogical.
the problem with hating anything though, is that it hurts yourself.
all the tensions and anxieties that come with it, are bad for one's own health, physical and mental both.

 

WHEN you lose a military brother or sister on the battlefield.......
......In some far away country
......Patroling a hard to pronounce province
......Securing a no-name street

......Or anywhere
......Even while wearing a peace symbol