Is good rock dieing?

It's already dead and buried, and it's children forced underground by the Monster that is Pop Music.

~Layla

 

Bah. Get thee out of the ClearChannel Brainwash Universe, and into the reeeel wurld.

The good shit's always been underground, yo.

 

good rock is definatley hard to come by these days. our generation sucks, a lot, and i think it does sometimes have an untrue but negative influence on the state of the world...especially all this rap "gun toting gangster wannabe" bullshit im surrounded by. glad im getting ready to move before i become a product of my surroundings like so many other wiggers around me. these fools can live in self-contained judgemental la la land for the rest of their lives and think their being "real" for all i care really... the best stuff you'll hear these days is xavier rudd imho...especially the song messages, gives me chills when i hear it.

 

Sorry - I only read the posts up to this one - then I had to comment..

There IS still good music - but on a luxury evening - e.g. mountain,fire,beer,spliff,music - I would always go for the 60's/70's . BUT there are still alot of tracks that grab me - Wycliffe Jean - The perfect Gentlemen / Spacehog - In the meantime / James - Laid / Faithless - all of it / Prodigy - all of it / - but more excitingly - there was so much original stuff made in the 60's70's that I still have alot to learn - I never heard the grateful dead yet ! - But Frank Zappa,Yes,Led Zep are old familiars - to me it's like a secret world which people will dip into for years and years - cos if a book of contradictions written 10 000 years ago can survive - the lyrics to songs like 'Thats the way' - Led Zep / 'The Weight' - The Band / and more up to date stuff - ' Obvious Child ' Paul Simon / 'Urban Hymns' - The verve / Rappers Delight - Rockers Revenge - EVEN GREASE! - U2 - Shirley Bassey - Miles Davis - Debussy / will stand the test of time.We fail to realise how much this race has created in the last couple of centuries.I mean when I was 9 - we had a computer - the ZX Spectrum.It was shit hot - at the time - what now???? If I end up in an old peoples home - I'll be rockin in my chair - but yeah - if they'll let me listen to Motorhead - I'll be ok....

 

unfortunate

 

Well some people on this forum act as if the only good music comes from the sixties or early seventies, which I dont think is true.

 

there are a lot of good new bands, their just not as publicized as the rest. the radio nowadays mostly plays pop and rap and stuff (well at least where i live) so the word about a good rock band just doesnt spread as quickly... i bet a lot of the good bands today will only be truly discovered in 20 years or so once they have stoped producing music.

 

Rock is about freedom, rebellion, resistance, Love, Sex, Exces, Power, volume and what not.
as long as there al still people living like this, doing these things...
that religous experiance Jim talked about, that can never die man

 

yeah what about Hermans Hermets?

 

"is good rock dieing?"

no, it's just re-tuning?

 

In my opinion, IN GENERAL, music can't get a whole lot worse than it already is, so either rock is about to experience a rebirth, or we'll get a better style of music, if possible.

 

the problem is that people pick there favorite sub-genre of rock and proclaim it to be the "real rock"..........

so this question will be asked forever unless people change there ways of thinking.

 

Between the over exposure of rap by MTV and TV in general it kill most of the bands that had quite a good amount of talents in the 1990s. all we have this days = Dust in the Wind.

 

thats a prime example of what i mentioned in my last post.

 

bioCandlebox rode the grunge bandwagon to multi-platinum success in the early '90s, despite howls of protest from the Seattle faithful who considered their music a watered-down version of the genuine article. To be sure, Candlebox's take on grunge diluted the punk and indie elements inherent in its original form; instead, they were rooted in the bluesy, classic-style hard rock that grunge had ostensibly replaced. Their resulting commercial appeal made them highly suspect in the minds of authenticity-obsessed scenesters, and it didn't help matters that the band hadn't formed until well after the Seattle hype machine had begun. Nonetheless, Candlebox unwittingly helped usher in the post-grunge era; along with Bush, they showed how the more challenging aspects of grunge could be ironed out and polished into a sound that mainstream rock radio could embrace without reservation.

Candlebox was formed in Seattle in December 1991 by singer/guitarist Kevin Martin, a native of Elgin, IL, who'd grown up partly in San Antonio, and drummer Scott Mercado. Initially calling the band Uncle Duke, they added lead guitarist Peter Klett and bassist Bardi Martin (no relation to Kevin) and changed the group's name to Candlebox, after a line in a Midnight Oil song. Their demo tape found its way to Madonna's Maverick label, which quickly resulted in a record deal in 1992. Candlebox's self-titled debut was released in 1993, and while the first single, "Change," began to build them a following, it wasn't until 1994, when the follow-up, "You," appeared, that the group really started to take off. "You" gave them a breakthrough hit on mainstream rock radio, which set the stage for the success of "Far Behind," essentially a power ballad for the grunge era. "Far Behind" was a major hit on both mainstream and alternative radio, and also made the pop Top 20; its exposure helped Candlebox climb into the Top Ten on the LP chart and eventually sell over three million copies.

By the time Candlebox returned with their second album, 1995's Lucy, the backlash was already in full swing. Partly because of the group's previous momentum, the lead single, "Simple Lessons," earned some rock radio airplay, and the album itself went gold and barely missed the Top Ten. However, it was largely ignored or dismissed by much of the mainstream media, and was ultimately hurt by a relative lack of memorable songs. In 1997, founding member Mercado left the band and was replaced by original Pearl Jam drummer Dave Krusen. Candlebox's third album, Happy Pills, appeared in 1998 and marked a return to the more basic sound of their debut. "It's Alright," "10,000 Horses," and the title cut all landed some airplay, but the album sold poorly; by this time, countless bands were working in a similar style, and the band's early momentum had long since dissipated. Krusen departed in 1999, as did Bardi Martin; they were replaced by Shannon Larkin (ex-Ugly Kid Joe) and Rob Redick, respectively. ~ Steve Huey, All Music

 

hjahahah thanks for the post, but i think most will agree that when you listen to grunge god stabs a baby in the neck with a toothbrush shank.

 

no that happens when you are starting out playing an instrument for the first time, you play grunge, and think you are good