Is Elton John a gay?

Discussion in 'Music' started by catstevens, Jun 16, 2005.

  1. Davino

    Davino Member

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    My head is fucking spinning from seeing this shit.
     
  2. Butters

    Butters Senior Member

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    Holy shit...Elton John is gay?!?!?!?! Jesus christ, now you're probably going to tell me that Ellen Degeneres is a lesbian too! WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO!!! OH CRUEL FATE!


    ....she isn't, is she? [​IMG]
     
  3. CelticMuse

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    In the early 90's Elton John was on Primetime I believe or 20/20 anyway he stated on the show that he was gay. He has also credited his partner David with keeping him off drugs. They are supposed to have some kind of marriage cerimony this year.
    Who really cares if he's gay. He's a great artist and a nice guy,( yes I have had the pleasure of meeting him twice) I wish him happiness
     
  4. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    HOMOSEXUALITY
    Part (1)
    First of all:

    I have my opinion about gays and others have their, keep yours opinion and I will keep mine , I didn't obligate anybody to anything , I said my opinion and that's all .



    Homosexuality and lesbianism have been dubbed '' alternative life-style,'' ''personal preference,'' ''a natural variation,'' etc. in the West today. Where homosexuality was considered an illness by the Association of Psychiatrists, it is now removed from the list and replaced by homophobia ( the dislike of homosexuals and homosexuality ).

    Consequently, Islam and Muslims are considered intolerant and biased due to their continued opposition. Arguments in favor of tolerance to homosexuals are based on the assumption that homosexual behavior is biologically based and not merely learned from society.


    • Early opposition to homosexuality was based on the argument that such behavior was unnatural. Sodomy cannot produce children which is one of the main natural consequences of sexual relation. ''Mother Nature'' did not make us that way, it was argued. To counter such arguments homosexual researchers scoured the earth until they found supposed homosexual behavior among the animal kingdom. They found that males of some species of exotic fishes of the coast of Japan imitated the behavior of females of the species in order to prevent other males from impregnating their mates, and some rare butterflies from islands of the coast of Africa also had males exhibiting female behavior during mating season , etc. However, if the animal kingdom is to be used to justify human behavior, there also exists a spider in South America, whose female is much larger than the male . When mating is complete, the female eats her mate. ( Folks , The human beings are different from animal, we have minds .I mean .. Come On !) , (search for the diseases which resulted from gays relationships , if it was normal to be gay ( or the relationships between them) , then it must not cause all these disease . when you become sick and feel pain, that means you are making or made some thing wrong to your body and your body is complaining to you to stop because he can deal with what you are doing or what you did.


    • During the 80's it was claimed that a gland in the base of the brain which is small in women and large in men was found to be small among homosexuals.However, this evidence, while seeming incontrovertible to the layman, was immediately refuted by scientists. The data was taken from cross-section of the brains of dead adult humans whose sexual preference was identified prior to death. Consequently, the reduced size among homosexuals could have been a result of the practice and not its cause. That is, they could have been born with normal sized glands which then became small due to their deviant lifestyle.


    To be continued….

    Yours Sincerely,

    Cat Stevens
     
  5. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    HOMOSEXUALITY
    Part (2)

    First of all:

    I have my opinion about gays and others have their, keep yours opinion and I will keep mine , I didn't obligate anybody to anything , I said my opinion and that's all .


    • Recently genetics has become the most commonly used foundation for the pro-gay argument. In 1993 Dr.Dean Hamer, a researcher at the National Cancer Institute, claimed to have discovered '' the first concrete evidence that 'gay genes' really do exist.'' Homosexual orientation was supposedly transmitted to males on the X chromosome from the mother. Hamer's findings, published in the prestigious journal Science, transformed his colorless career as a government scientist into a dynamic media personality and penned his memories. He gave expert testimony to the Colorado Supreme Court that formed he basis of the victorious decision striking down anti-gay Proposition 2. However, a replication of his study at the University of Western Ontario failed to find any linkage whatsoever between the X chromosome and sexual orientation.(*)
    It was also found that Hamer's study lacked a control group; a fundamental principle of scientific research. Furthermore, in June 1994, the Chicago Tribune reported that a junior researcher in Hamer's laboratory who assisted in the gene mapping in the homosexuality study, alleged that he selectively reported his data. She was then summarily dismissed from her post-doctoral fellowship in Hamer's lab. But a National Institutes of Health investigation substantiated her claims and gave her another position in a different lab. Though Dr. Hamer was coy abut his own sexuality in his memoirs, he later admitted in his lectures that the was gay.(**)


    (*):

    The study looked at 40 pairs of brothers, all of whom were gay. He queried them about homosexuality among their relatives and found a preponderance of gay family members on the mother's side. When he looked at their X chromosome, he found that 33 of the 40 pairs of gay brothers shared an area at a spot near of the chromosome. However, seven of the pairs lacked the ''gay gene''. Nor did research look at the proportion of heterosexual or hetero-homo brother pairs also share the genetic material at the ''gay gene'' location. The preponderance of homosexual relatives on the mother's side could also have been due to the well established fact among sociologists that women know much more about their relatives than do men.


    (**):

    The Guide, October 1995.


    To be continued….

    Yours Sincerely,

    Cat Stevens
     
  6. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    HOMOSEXUALITY
    Part (3)
    First of all:

    I have my opinion about gays and others have their, keep yours opinion and I will keep mine , I didn't obligate anybody to anything , I said my opinion and that's all .


    • It should be noted that Islam, in its final form, did not introduce anti-gay legislature to the world. The texts of the Torah (Pentateuch; Old Testament) are replete with clear condemnation of such practices.

    • The consequence of AIDS is enough to prove that homosexuality is evil and dangerous to society. The early spread of AIDS was concentrated among the homosexual community. It later spread to the heterosexual community through blood transfusions and intravenous drug usage and so-called bisexuals. And continues on a rampage among promiscuous heterosexuals.


    • Islam considers homosexuality to be the result of a choice. It is inconceivable
    that God made people homosexuals then declared it a crime and prescribed punishments for it in both this life and the next. To accept such a proposition is to accept that God is unjust. Inclinations can exist within humans for a variety of natural and unnatural acts, from fornication to rape and from necrophilia to bestiality. These inclinations may come from jinn-suggestions, media influence, or even from human whisperings or direct contact. Human beings are not like robots who only do what they are programmed to do. Humans choose and God holds them responsible for their choices. Were homosexuality a product of genetic destiny, it would be unfair for God to criminalize it and punish those who practice it. Currently, some scientists are even claiming that murder is of genetic origin. To accept that would mean to excuse murders and tolerate. ( Any unnatural , wrong behavior appeared on the child should be stopped by guiding them step by step to the right natural acceptable behavior ( of course in some cases they have to see the psychologist , psychoanalyst and the doctor for some checks )

    And as I read too , that the females gays for example , who behave and feel as males …etc, doctors said that they have got defectiveness in their hormones , it is the same too for males gays, and doctors can treat these cases .


    To be continued….

    Yours Sincerely,

    Cat Stevens
     
  7. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    HOMOSEXUALITY
    The last Part (4)
    First of all:

    I have my opinion about gays and others have their, keep yours opinion and I will keep mine , I didn't obligate anybody to anything , I said my opinion and that's all .



    • Islam instructs parents to separate their children in their beds by the age of ten in order to avoid sexual experiences may be reinforced by contacts in schools and through abuse from adults. Also the distinctions between male and female are strongly made in Islamic teachings. The Prophet cursed men who imitated women and women who imitated men. The Western fashion industry is controlled by homosexuals who attempt to blur the distinction between males and females in order to make their behavior more acceptable. Consequently, men's fashion has become more feminine in style and color and women are now wearing three-piece suits, ties and hats and traditionally men's shoes. These distinctions may be relative and vary from society to society. For example, in Scotland men traditionally wear little knee-length dresses called ''kilts''. In Scotland it would not be considered imitation of females, but in a society where only women wear such dress it would be considered imitation.
    Yours Sincerely,

    Cat Stevens


     
  8. Davino

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    are you stuttering with your repeating of the same shit? I think you are WAY too concerned with Elton John, perhaps you should have some buttsex with a dude and you will be fixed....
     
  9. exhibita

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    I'm not very familiar with the Qura'n (did I spell that right?) but there seems to be a lot of parallels to Christianity. Where can I get an English version?

    I find this Adam and Eve (we're all brothers and sisters) thing interesting.

    Could you explain to me in what way are we all brothers and sisters?

    It seems to me that The Holy Bible says that humankind has perpetuated itself through some thousands of years of incest. And the Noah's Ark story.
    More incest after the great flood.
     
  10. Trickster

    Trickster Misfit

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    Ok. Either i'm really tired or you guys really don't know that Elton John is gay.

    He married an Aussie women in the 70's or 80's i think but has had a male partner for over a decade, they even plan to get married.

    Who the hell cares. If your life is that boring that whether or not Elton John is gay and the ensuing verbal bashing is the highlight of your day, then you really need to get out more.

    Gees, get over it!

     
  11. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    its called sarcasm, look into it.
     
  12. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    gads.. the hair spray and make up bills.....
     
  13. Kabbalist

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    Can you call with a telephone?

    Really, can you? ;)
     
  14. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    RE: I'm not very familiar with the Qura'n (did I spell that right?)

    Not exactly, but you can write it in these ways Qur'an – Qur'aan.


    RE: but there seems to be a lot of parallels to Christianity.

    Yes that's right, I have the bible and I read a lot of it, Muslims do believe in Mary and Jesus(peace be upon them) too , Myself , I am dying in Jesus , I love him so much.


    RE: Where can I get an English version?

    Islamic Information and Da'wah Center International

    1168 Bloor Street West, Toronoto, Ontario M6H 1N1,Canada

    Tel: (416) 536-8433 – Fax: (416) 536- 0417


    Try also to visit these websites www.islam-guide.com


    Also you can find The Holy Qur'aan in the internet by searching with any search engine.

    If you didn't success to find an English version , just tell.


    RE: Could you explain to me in what way are we all brothers and sisters?

    Of course, with my deepest pleasure.


    Allah stated:

    '' O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, …''

    Chapter: 49, verse: 13

    Male: Adam , Female: Eve


    Of course Adam was the first human being that God created him , and he married Eve, so the first other human beings came from this marriage and so on , that's what I meant by we are brothers and sisters .i.e. from the cane human beings got out the sugar , when the sugar (marry) with water we get sugared water , when the sugared water( marry) with cacao we get chocolate, when the chocolate ( marry) with whipped eggs we get chocolate cream, when the chocolate cream ( marry) with cottage loaf we get chocolate cake and so on, so, sugared water, chocolate, chocolate cream and chocolate cake are (grandsons) of the first mother and father ( sugar & water) because without that marriage they wouldn't be existed, but the real fact that they are the grandsons (which are sons to me) of the first marriage, so they are brothers and sisters if we overstepped their parents to their parents's parents till we reach the first father and mother which is in fact they are their ( forefather-grandparent) that's why I said we are all brothers and sisters. I didn't mean brothers and sisters by its real meaning because if we were like that nobody can marry then. Perhaps I didn't succeed to explain it but, I hope you got it.



    What is the Qura'n about?


    The Qura'n, the last revealed word of God, is the primary source of every Muslim's faith and practice. It deals with all the subjects which concern human beings: wisdom, doctrine, worship, transactions, law, etc., but its basic theme is the relationship between God and His creatures.

    At the same time, it provides guidelines and detailed teachings for a just society, proper human conduct, and an equitable economic system.


    Note that Qura'n was revealed to Muhammad ( peace be upon him ) in Arabic only. So, any Qur'anic translation , either in English or any other language , is neither a Qur'an, nor a version of the Qur'an , but rather it is only a translation of the meaning of the Qur'an. The Qur'an exists only in the Arabic in which it was revealed.

    Qura'n in Arabic is indescribable.


    Yours Sincerely,

    Cat Stevens

     
  15. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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  16. Kabbalist

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    Sounds like fun. Send me one ;)
     
  17. Davino

    Davino Member

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    Jesus...
     
  18. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    ok,then
    but i think that was your idea , so you have to send first
     
  19. blindhobosam

    blindhobosam The Legend

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    that was what i was going to ask.

    isnt there a whole bit in the bible about not screwing family members, yet we're all brothers and sisters. fun.
     
  20. Trickster

    Trickster Misfit

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    How about actually looking up the meaning of the word.




     
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