Is Elton John a gay?

Discussion in 'Music' started by catstevens, Jun 16, 2005.

  1. innocentpoison333

    innocentpoison333 Member

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    Catstevens i find you a closed minded individual. It seems to me that you are afraid and cling to your religion as a means of comfort, whether you know it or not, but hey thats just a thought. I too believe in a higher power and all that, but I dislike the bible, and most of its teachings. You said you wanted to help Elton John becuase he was gay, and I thought that was a rude comment, and I am sure he wouldnt want to be helped by you. You must be a straight man, no? If someone came around and started telling you, you had to like men, I dont think you would like that. It really isnt any of your buisness what another humans sexuality is thats a personal thing, if they are happy then leave it at that. If he wants to fuck tens of thousands of men then so be it. Im sure Jesus wanted us to be happy and I honestly DONT think homo-sexuality is a sin. The bible is a bunch of stories and examples of how to be, I really dont take any of the bible to heart. Your mind is blinded by your religion, you think one way and one way only, you look straight ahead without observing all that surrounds you. You tell God to forgive everyone for their comments, I really think God has better things to do, then listen to some lame ass, who is just afraid of anything different than the "norm."

    People that are homo-sexuals cant help the way they are no matter what anyone says you cant help who you love and find attractive. Most homo-sexuals try to hold in their feelings, and a lot of the time that leads to rage or substance abuse. My friend's father is gay, and for half of his life he did many drugs to seperate himself from reality, he was ashamed of what his parents would think of him, when it is his parents that should be ashamed. You dont simply do away with someone just becuase they are gay and automaticaly assume they are sinners. God made us all unique and special in my mind he predestined our futures, I think gay people were put on earth to open peoples eyes, it is Gods way of trying to teach people it is ok to be different.

    To close my argument i want to say you are a fuck head I dont care how immature it sounds, you really are rediculous. I think you are a miserable man and I dont think i would want to get to know you, becuase you seem like a close minded peace of shit who is afraid in a rapidly changing world...and you said Quote: "May you God recover their sick souls and minds which became polluted with their sins," I think your mind is polluted since you fill it with bullshit from the bible, not that all of it is bullshit but a great deal of it is.

    And as for saying you pray for us, I pray for you and your narrow minded ways, I hope something happens to you something that will make you understand, cause I really dont think you get it.
     
  2. innocentpoison333

    innocentpoison333 Member

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    thats prettty funny
     
  3. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    I already answered this. he was always gay. he probably noticed when he was a little boy that he liked other little boys and not girls. he didnt just all of a sudden become gay. like one day in 1972 he decided that it would be a good thing for his career to become a gay man. man, you are so closed minded. he was always gay. GOD made him that way.
     
  4. Bilby

    Bilby Lifetime Supporter and Freerangertarian Super Moderator

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    He is gay, but what has that got to do with the price of fish?
     
  5. bedlam

    bedlam Senior Member

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    yeah l think he is gay, because he is very girlie..
     
  6. hailtothekingbaby

    hailtothekingbaby Yowzers!

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    A what?

    Anyway, NO, everyone is beautiful, including gay people, so I wouldn't "metamophose" him into something ugly, because he isn't and homosexuality is'nt ugly.

    Well, I WAS actually protecting someone... homosexuals can also be injured by words, you know.

    To be honest, I think the one lower than anyone is you, oh judgemental one.

    I doubt "H"e reads these forums, you know.

    Okay, you asked for it:

    I hope you "turn" gay.

    By the way, I don't consider your god to be anybody, so it would be alright to curse him as well. I hope satan will rise to conquer this world and turn heaven into a new Sodom, enslaving the holy, the angels and the trinity into prostitution. It would serve them well.

    I do not need your forgiveness.

    You do realise you're not living up to your own standards, don't you?

    I don't need god to make people happy or give to the poor.

    But it prefers to.

    Improvise.


    Ha ha ha.

    No.
     
  7. gurney

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    i do give to the poor
     
  8. Kabbalist

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    Couldn't have said it better! :)
     
  9. Kabbalist

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    The pope is a woman
     
  10. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Re: That's not up to you. First you tell us all to shut and …..

    No poor, it's definitely totally completely up to me , it's my thread and I got what I was looking for , I don't want to know more, except if you want to continue in my thread and you know that I do not want to hear (read )more comments ,that's called in English(humiliation to your self) and really I hate to see people humiliating themselves.

    And I want to finish the thread because it became a thread for (The Art of cursing) which I am not interested in this kind of Arts lol


    RE: ….next you want to protect yourself from critic...

    So poor theory lol , try again.

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    Originally Posted by:catstevens: I don't care about others who comment on me (in negative stuffs ) because I think they are not positive or optimistic )

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    Originally Posted by:catstevens: the sword may hurts you but not the words , especially when it's not valid because it doesn't agree with what you really are




    Yours sincerely,

    Cat stevens
     
  11. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    RE: It seems to me that you are afraid and cling to your religion as a means of comfort


    Who belongs to Islam isn't as you think definitely, PROUDLY I AM A MUSLIM


    RE: You said you wanted to help Elton John becuase he was gay, and I thought that was a rude comment, and I am sure he wouldnt want to be helped by you.


    If any body needs help , even if that person who you want to help him doesn't know or he thinks he doesn't need help , and we will say we want to help him ,but he doesn't want?? If we will leave every body alone , a disaster will explode

    We have to help even if I am sure I will be treated badly , at least I did something even if I failed , I did as much as I can , look for example to that singer ( on of back street boys band AJ) who sank in drinking and drugs , did you listened what he said to Oprah about that?? He said that (Kevin ) interference was the reason to his change, though AJ in the beginning hated that interference and if I remember good AJ fought with him or a strong argument happened between them, thanks to God AJ didn't die by drugs and he awaked his self, try to watch that episode of Oprah's show somehow, many of people sais not just AJ (the interference was the reason to their change which they hated it in the beginning and loved it later) I know for sure , people don't change quickly , I know.


    RE: If someone came around and started telling you, you had to like men, I dont think you would like that. It really isnt any of your buisness


    Of course there will be another way to talk about that not as you said I have my bright experience , and it's my business as I said previously : (It is definitely totally completely exactly my business , we are Adam's son , that's mean Elton is my brother , I have to help my brother…etc )

    Tell me if you have a son 10 years old or whatever husband , friend and he got in trouble and he thinks he is fine?? You will watch him only ? doing nothing?? that's is absolutely wrong, in my religion I have to do something what ever is and as much as I can,


    RE: what another humans sexuality is that's a personal thing

    No sister no, it's a disaster really disaster, maybe you have never met gays or …etc

    Actually, I am very handsome , and because of that I've been followed (chased) several times from gays, one day gays detained me , thanks to God nothing has happened to me and thank you because you created me handsome , search for the diseases which resulted from gays relationships, read , I am not saying things from nothingness

    1) Gay ( actually male ) is making his self a female, dressed women dresses and put some makeup ….etc, he uses women toilets ??? And you don't know that he is male?? That is a disaster for women!!

    2) A married woman, after years she found out that his husband is actually female ( Mercy)

    3) Special pool for women, there are some males and we don't now?? What if your sister or wife was there?? ( O God )

    WHAT A DISASTER!!
    RE: if they are happy then leave it at that

    They aren't happy I guarantee that to you and as I said previously : (I know some gays Who became natural people and some still gay ) they aren't happy and if they are it is a temporary happiness or fake , or happy now tomorrow no , I know very well what I am saying , I know someone who converted from female to male and (he) or actually( she) IS NOT HAPPY??!! SHE SAID THAT BY HERSELF?? I know 2 females who removed their breasts and now they are so regretful?? Will you tell me , what is the benefit of the regret now?? I don't want people who are my sisters and brothers to fall in mistakes which some of it you couldn't repair it??


    RE: I honestly DONT think homo-sexuality is a sin

    Who said it is a sin ,it's a test from the God to you to Know How you will deal with it ? and if you like it and you know it is prohibited then it become a sin

    Go and treat your self?? What's wrong with that?


    RE: Most homo-sexuals try to hold in their feelings, and a lot of the time that leads to rage or substance abuse


    According to my experience Most homo-sexuals who go to treatment , they in fact don't want to be normal or to recover as a psychologist & psychoanalyst said ?! there is not a real desire in them to change?? So , and because of that we should help them from the beginning and I don't mean we have to stop helping those who are homo-sexuals from long time


    RE: You dont simply do away with someone just becuase they are gay and automaticaly assume they are sinners.


    I am not who do away with someone just because they are gay


    RE: I think gay people were put on earth to open peoples eyes, it is Gods way of trying to teach people it is ok to be different.


    As I heard being a homo-sexual is prohibited ( in heavenly religions ) like: Islam & Christianity

    That is your thought ( RE: to teach people it is ok to be different) my thought as being a Muslim we Muslims believe strongly and deeply that the Holy Qura'n is Allah's Word and we have countless evidence to his existing and countless evidence that the Holy Qura'n is his word ( Allah =Muslim's God ) , so it is prohibited in my religion to be homo-sexual , and as I heard and read and saw prohibited too in Christianity ( The most of different churches ), simply if the religion prohibited something it means God prohibited and God knows the best for us because he created us , as I said previously ( RE: why God prohibited something?

    The computer inventor knows very well what things makes the computer idle, so he warn you to don't do it before you will fall in the mistake , he says don't put the computer next to the window because he knows sun's rays will destroy the computer , he knows that because he invented the computer so he know what he is saying, as well, when God prohibited something be sure there is a benefit for you, even if you didn't realize it )

    It is really weird when people follow their job's rules without argument , but doesn't follow God's Rule??

    Look to the life , we can't live this life without rules , each country over the world has it own rules ( constitution ) and without it the world would miss , I think there wouldn't be a life ? every body will kill the other (revenge or whatever) , stealing ,nothing will stop them , now there is rules and the crimes are in high level , what will happen then without rules , Oh my God ( MERCY ) ,So , creatures need rules too from who knows them very well ( of course God the creator)

    Allah stated :

    '' should not he who has created know? And he is the Most Kind and Courteous ( to his slaves ), the Well-Acquainted ( with everything )''

    Chapter:67, verse:14
     
  12. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    RE: I already answered…..

    thank you then

    RE: GOD made him that way

    That's your own opinion , read the childhood for gays ?? female lost her mother so her father was her mother and father , so she is behaving as her father's behaving , he is the only person who she can see every day, day after day she become tom-boy, her father is her example of life so she is trying to be like him , day after day she became gay …etc , some of them ( males ) had their bad experience with their mothers or females and suddenly find the lost love or the good treatment from a male and they liked actually the treatment ,but their love walked wrongly to that male not to his treatment , so they loved that male , and then all males ?! some of them (female) raped by an animal male , so she became tom-boy to put male away from her ( trying to protect her self )then became a gay , and as I read once a male when he was a kid , his driver once touched his ( YOU Know ) and he liked that feelings when the driver Bla-Bla , so he became a gay ? a girl became a gay because when she was 10 her cousin raped her , so as she said I am making my self a male because I know nobody will marry me??

    Briefly, an attitude happened to them and changed their life ( identity ) because the wrong way they treated with it or they didn't find anybody to help them , how to behave in these cases or they thought that the way they are dealing with the situation is good so they used to be like what they choose as a solution …etc
     
  13. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    OK: I love Cat stevens , but it doesn't mean I have to marry him ? we can be friend? Natural friends, so try that gays , love doesn't mean odd conduct or marriage , I love my mum , so should I marry her? I know you will say mum's love is deferent, but you can make it , say it to your self if you are a male ( loving males should be different just ignore the feelings when see males , day after day it will become normal feeling) some times you love your mum (for example) so much ( let's say because she helped you with some money or made your favorite cake or what ever .

    Tell me , should I marry every one who I loved? No, only One love and in the right way

    Once I read the ways that used to treat the gays , it is good and genius


    *sigh*

    I am wondering, some members as I conclude hate God or don't respect him,

    I think their life is like this: Eating , drinking, sleeping and having ……

    So, what then??, it is animals life , no , not animals life , we got at least benefits from animals, for example( cow's sh..) we use it as manure , but you have mind (brain ) animals doesn't


    Jesus (peace be upon him) worthy to love , I hope he will come back soon , but I hope he will meet you when you changed or never meet people like you, I wish to get a praise from him or shaking his hand at least. Being his obedient server, perhaps you never hear things about him, he is honestly worthy to love and respect


    Summary:

    I have my opinion about gays and others have their, keep yours opinion and I will keep mine , I didn't obligate anybody to anything , I said my opinion and that's all .


    I have never seen people hate their God that much :.( regrettable thing

    But life of this world still fine, because there is still some good people (thank you God)


    Yours sincerely,

    Cat stevens
     
  14. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    I said that (Quote:

    Originally Posted by catstevens

    I am asking you God , if this person will not become in the future a good person , I am asking you to metamorphose him to a tiny ugly odd creature
    )


    I said that just because you cursed God , not less not more, so , I didn't mean gays are ugly?


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    ………, all creatures deal him as a pedal,


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    Originally Posted by hailtothekingbaby

    A what?


    Forget pedal (Mat ) OK, do you know how people put out their cigarettes with their shoes , exactly like this


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    Originally Posted by hailtothekingbaby

    I doubt "H"e reads these forums, you know.



    He knows every thing , he has his special angels which their job is to write people's deeds for the judgment day (hereafter)


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    Originally Posted by hailtothekingbaby

    I hope you "turn" gay.


    I hope you turn to a winged man ,so you can fly over God' world and see the beauty of God's creation , and if that became true take me with you sometimes , I'd love to


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    Originally Posted by hailtothekingbaby

    I do not need your forgiveness.


    We will see in the hereafter (the judgment day)


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    Originally Posted by hailtothekingbaby

    Ha ha ha.

    No.



    OK, I am actually becoming faster in typing post after post J



    I know for sure you have got a big heart , there are many of people who ignore the call of their big heart , just answer the call , and discover the change.

    Special gifting to you:

    I don't know if you heard about ( child for a day ) , it is a name of a song for Cat stevens ,

    One of my best and favorite songs ever , the lyric says: ( you'll find some of my comments)


    I was a child

    Who ran full of laughter
    I was a child who lived for today
    My eyes full of sunshine
    My heart full of smiles
    I was a child for a day
    We were the children
    Who sang in the morning
    We were the children
    Who laughed at the sun = = = = = =>(
    I am against this
    )
    Who listened to those who spoke with their wisdom
    We are the ones we would say, but
    We're getting older as time goes by
    A little older with everyday
    We were the children of yesterday


    We are the men who worry of nothing = = = = = =>(I am against this)

    We are the men who fight without aim
    We listen to no one, yet speak of our wisdom
    We are the pawns in the game = = = = = =>(
    I am against this)


    We're getting older as time goes by

    A little older with everyday
    We were the children of yesterday


    I was a child

    Who ran full of laughter
    I was a child who lived for today
    My eyes full of sunshine
    My heart full of smiles
    I was a child for a day


    We're getting older as time goes by

    A little older with everyday
    We were the children of yesterday



    Remember your self when you were kid, get your photo album, how pure and innocent you were ( oh children! )
     
  15. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Quote:

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    i do give to the poor



    May god bless you , go on




    Allah has spoken the truth as always when he stated:

    '' They made not a just estimate of Allah such as is due to Him"

    Chapter:39, verse:67


    ''Allah burdens not a person beyond his scope. He gets reward for that (good) which he has earned, and he is punished for that (evil) which he has earned . ''


    our lord! punish us not if we forget or fall into error ,..

    Our lord! Put not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear, pardon us and grant us forgiveness . have mercy on us. You are our patrun , supporter and protector, etc .


    Chapter:2, verse:286


    Qura'n in Arabic is indescribable


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    *****

    Free your bird

    Yours sincerely,

    Cat stevens

     
  16. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    holy crap, are you so closed minded......

    there are girls who grow up as tom boys all the time..... and do they become gay?? NO! that is an extreme example of a person who was gay to begin with. wherever you read that, that is complete bullshit. because a girl was without her mother, does not make a girl a lesbian. that is complete and utter nonsense.

    same with rape and molestation. those kids dont become gay. usually they become molestors themselves. that doesnt make them gay.

    its not experiences that makes a person gay. they were born with it.
     
  17. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    don't tell me that , say that to gays who reported their childhood in that way themselves
    and if they born like that , naturally the Mum should paid attention for that and has to deal with it correctly, not to left it go on


    Yours sincerely,

    Cat stevens
     
  18. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    hahaha....... you cant whip a child (who is into the same sex) into shape. its pointless. whats the mother going to do?? scorn and punish the child because he likes other little boys? come on. you know the child would want that even more. just to rebel against the parents.
     
  19. Kabbalist

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    You should try to live the Mormon way, they use electronics to punish people for being gay! Totally absurd, it really shocked me when I realised that people always want to take G'ds place to judge other people. They are the ones who need to be punished at 'judgement day' and I strongly believe they will be!​
     
  20. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    I think I have to explain in prolixity and in a different way because here is some small minded


    Child 4 years old , his Mum noticed that her child is putting his finger into his nose and eating his mucus , oh man : it is very natural , he born that way , go on son


    Child 5 years old , today is his first day to go to the Zoo, oh God he is trying to go into the Lion cage? The Mum: oh my son born brave , go on son , God bless you

    ( of course children doesn't afraid of animals , but they become afraid when their parents teach them ) ==è Read , be cultured


    The previous, is what psychologist & psychoanalyst reported

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    Originally Posted by catstevens

    Summary:

    I have my opinion about gays and others have their, keep yours opinion and I will keep mine , I didn't obligate anybody to anything , I said my opinion and that's all .






    Quote:

    Originally Posted by catstevens


    Re: That's not up to you. First you tell us all to shut and …..

    No poor, it's definitely totally completely up to me , it's my thread and I got what I was looking for , I don't want to know more, except if you want to continue in my thread and you know that I do not want to hear (read )more comments ,that's called in English(humiliation to your self) and really I hate to see people humiliating themselves.

    And I want to finish the thread because it became a thread for (The Art of cursing) which I am not interested in this kind of Arts lol


     
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