Is chivalry dead?

I think maybe some guys (not all guys) have the mentality that 'oh ok, so men and women are equal now,' so that gives me the excuse to be rude. I do feel chivalry is dying and along with it common manners also die.

 

I think what everyone's referred to is man opening a door for a woman that's in front of him, then letting her enter and then he enters behind her and then closes the door behind him.

Holding the door for someone behind you is quite different.

 

Yes..I was wondering if feminism has had some part in killing chivalry. And guys just seem so rude in the current time. When I do come across someone who is chivalrous, for lack of a better term, he seems like prince charming.

 

In addition, guys only hold open doors for women because they expect sex afterwards.

 

I've had strangers ask me out on dates after noticing my mad chivalry skills

 

Is that another thing that's dying- men asking women on dates? I think either is fine, the man or the woman asking. Do people even ask eachother on dates anymore?..
ha, I don't know if it's just my personality, but it seems I have always been the one to take initiative and ask a man if he wants to go on a date. Guys are gettin' lazy! Seriously though, are guys leaving it up to the gals to ask for the date now?

 

I actually thought that two people find themselves in front of the door at the same time and one opens it to let the other through first.

To me it would be weird to reach the door first and then wait for the man to open it, so that I could go through...

That's actually the one situation in which I do accept chivalry. It's intimate and it has it's place.
Perhaps that's why I'm sensitive about who does it, in which situation and with what motive.

 

I don't ask women out very often. Women that I don't know anyways.

I have found that I have better luck with the ladies by showcasing my personality than relying on my looks and asking a stranger out on a date.

 

does anybody even date anymore these days?

 

Chivalry is just what feminists call the part of the patriarchy that they like.

I try to be nice to everyone -- not chivalric.

 

I'm not sure..

 

I can't even remember the last time I went out on a "date".

 

Nah, I think guy's are rude, is more of a venn diagram issue that relates to this one but is somewhat separate.

There are plenty of nice guys out there, but I think the trend where boys/men are treating girls/women (it starts young people) badly has to do with the objectification of women and men in the media in general (not just pornography either).

I'm talking about the stuff kids are seeing in magazines, on TV, from peers or older siblings on social media, and this whole mass culture that is PROVING that if you're a jackass you get laid with the girls YOU want.
Chivalry as a concept has been tied to negative imagery, like sexism, elitism, and pushover men (doormats).
In many ways, even posters here have chalked up chivalrous acts as noting but a guise to charm a way into a girl's pants. (aka: White knight scenario)

From a girl's perspective because of that chivalrous acts sometimes come off as dishonest, and fake and therefore not appealing, so guys stop trying that route of chivalrous behavior.

 

i do meet men who sort of insist on that.where thats just their ways.and if you did'nt go through first they would'nt budge themseles til ya do. ha! ha! in that case i just go through as a sign of respect for their wishes.but i'd still keep my hand on the door for them ta follow through.and i will go in front of someone else ta hold a door open for them ta go through first before me when it comes ta all elderly people or someone whos struggling with a heavy load,or women or men with babies in buggys or small children.so depending on whos in front of me.

 

Yeah people still do go out on dates, that isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Fancy dates might be less common even the shrinking of the middle class, but yeah dates still happen, and group dating is still popular. (Note: from my experience among friends and personal observations)

 

Chivalry was direct response to the respect women gave men, that's why its near dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=medVCq8eWPk"]Chivalry and Feminists - YouTube

I still hold doors open for anyone regardless of gender but I do it more for people carrying packages or with children or very old.

 

Would bringing a woman flowers when going on a date be a chivalrous act? Guys don't do this anymore either, right?

 

I love chivalrous men. Any guy that opens/holds a door, helps me with my coat, etc. is wonderful in my eyes.

My husband even opens and closes the car door for me. I just think its so damn adorable.

I have to be strong and independent for so many people in my life, so I rather enjoy the small things that he does for me

 

yes! I think it's adorable too
I'm happy you have someone in your life like that!
It's nice to have someone make you feel really special.

 

I guess so, I've just always thought of that as being classy and fun.

It's not something that all men would do on the first date, or something that is just casual; for fear of being thought of by the woman as perhaps chasing something too serious in an era where casual relationships are kinda hip.

Maybe that's the other aspect to the illusion (my belief) that chivalry is dying. It's only being used by men who are looking to settle down in an age where people aren't doing that til their 30's or even later.