Is Apu from the Simpsons racist?

This isn't about changing the channel. It's about not going "ok I can see how Indian people could be bothered by that" and instead going "wha! My cartoon is being changed! Goddam SJW bitches!!"

Like, if I said something and someone said it offended them, I wouldn't say it again. Guess that's just me

 

I'm not sure how it's even possible to create a comedy cartoon which is supposed to have some sembalance of the real world and not have stereotypes.

 

Homer has gotten complaints over his weight (one episode in particular) and his alcoholism. Since both are jokes it shames those dealing with it or in the case of drinking makes it seem OK to act that way. Homer has a big alcohol problem. He drives drunk and is always hammered in a bar. He drinks to deal with his family and would rather drink than anything. In real life this is an intervention.

I know you think that was extreme but it has happened.

Bit of a stretch to say a black doctor is a stereotype.

Somehow all these comics are making it work. What you consider funny is probably just not very to most people. The only modern comedian I can think of who says what you have said is Jerry Sinefield. A man whose plot lines on his 90's TV show included drugging women and laughing at people getting mugged. Yeah, in modern times people don't things like that funny. His style of comedy is bitchy white man does not like anything anyone does. That style is going away,

 

This is a big fallacy. Just because certain people make it go away, like out of their view, doesn't mean this style of humour is going away. The purpose of this humour with all kinds of stereotypes is not to offend, it's a comical mirror of society, sometimes critical, sometimes ridiculing, a lot of people appreciate it. And it's OK!!! not to appreciate it. But it's not ok to try to get rid of it just because you think it's not right. It's not that bad to get offended by a stereotype in comedy. And if one really doesn't like that kind of stuff, yes, changing the channel is a good solution. It used to be.

 

Depends on the details. It's not so black and white we have to rigorously get rid of all offensive jokes in comedy. Which is obviously a futile attempt in the first place. Come on, just think about it!

 

Trust me, sooner or later somebody's gonna find something wrong with either him, or some other minority character, like Krusty the Clown who is Jewish, and indeed a pretty rough personality who often isn't shown in a very flattering light. These are the times we're living. People just have to get hurt about something. This whole case with Apu was a dangerous game opener, and kinda reminds me about that South Park Christmas episode, where the townspeople first ban Jesus, then Santa, and finally everything else Xmas related, just so that nobody would get their precious little feelings hurt, consequently turning the kids' Christmas pageant at school into a disaster. Which is what the Simpsons will be, if they start further axing long time established characters for political reasons.

 

I think if some of the people who advocate to change the scottish janitor character as well (change it to something noncontroversial or get rid of it like with Apu) would explain where acting on this principle would end, it would become clear its a serious form of nonsensical censorship. I invite them to try

Although it isn't an issue to feel offended by a character like that scottish janitor in the first place, I would recommend those who want it changed because it can be offensive to find out how offensive the average Scot finds it. I mean does changing it out of principle because it might be offensive really sounds good?

 

I would rather live in a society where people don't feel mocked. If the 2 choices are white men deciding everyone else should not be "sensitive" or a society where it's hard to joke over anything I will take the hard jokes. And I say that as someone who is pro free speech and who likes comics like George Carline who were not considerd PC.

Your South Park example is 2 white guys. One of them went to my high school. Mr. Mackey is based off my schools counselor. It's a rich white town where people live in a bubble. They are not the type to get to decide over the mocked group what is right. Though my close home town connections it also happened that my friends dad's was the one who got them a meeting with Comedy Central. At the time they were fairly alt-right with their views and Comedy Central would not accept some of their early episodes which were VERY controversial even by 90's standards. For example what I heard was that in 1997 they wanted to do something where the kids decided that ****** was an ok word since they liked Chef and had heard him use it. The kids will get mad at the adults who make the word naughty and then at the end there is one of those "I leaned something today" speeches where the kids say say adults in the course of trying to be nice are racist and put too much stock in a word.

It was when the show was a hit they were allowed to get nasty. I've seen some of their stuff. It's what I am talking about. Clueless white men upset they have to be polite. But that is just my opinion.

Scottish people don't seem bothered by Willie at least.

 

Something I wish right wing people would remember. Many of the things that upset them can also be fixed by ignoring it or changing the channel. I don't know just speaking from my own country's perspective many of the people want want free speech over manners are also hyper sensitive to white straight men being stereotyped. They can dish but can not take it as the expression goes.

A Indian guy like Apu is fine. A redneck with a big truck, 2 teeth, and a cousin for a wife is liberals being mean in their ivory tower. That is the same thing is not? There is some truth in the joke. They do drive trucks, marriage laws are very loose in red states, just as Indian people do own convenience stores. Redneck is sort of like the N word. When said among themselves it's fine but if an outsider says it then it brings the stereotypes.

 

What's this like a year ago or something now?

Who cares. The Simpson's creators changed the show to appeal to new audiences and markets. It's a business.

Yes apu Was awesome and will be missed. But at the end of the day it's a cartoon.

 

It's not only about Apu or the Simpsons.

 

This is pretty much it. Adapt with the marketplace or go obsolete

 

Yeah but at the end of the day it's TV. It's not real. It should not really impact anybodies life with how fake characters are portrayed in a cartoon.

Yeah I may I have been frustrated in my initial posts but I see clearer now.. My life hasn't changed any.

 

Irminsul lecturing someone about not getting hung up on stuff that's not real! Lol

 

Adapt with the marketplace indeed. Let other people have their fun. The humour doesn't go obsolete, that's just wishful thinking. You want to force it off the marketplace. Ridicilous. Take your own advice.

 

That's because there still is plenty of crude humour out there I would really hate it if it was banned completely off tv and in movies. I think you too. And I would hate it not only because I enjoy it, but also because I find such measures against any offensive humour seriously wrong and concerning.
Not that I think it will get real bad, but if you hear some people would be in favor of such measures, I'm mighty glad they're not in charge of such shit and just saying it on an internet forum.
It would be a serious violation of free speech too.

 

When did I force anything off of anywhere?

 

Don't be so insecure GB.

 

You seemed one of the people in favor of forcing characters like Apu of tv?

 

I dont know much about Apu. I'm not Indian and I dont watch The Simpsons. My issue is with when one group of people offends another group, and the offended group says, "hey that's not funny anymore" and the offending group loses its shit and cries censorship and oppression from SJWs.

Its 2020. That humor doesn't fly anymore. It's a cartoon. People need to get over themselves