Is another Hippie Revolution coming?

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by ScorpioChild, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    While I can see how anything is applicable after the thought, I don't see how the thought can be independent of the correlational perception of time accompanying what we may give it to. In other words, I credit time with no more constraint than the space that makes up its measure.

    Actuality perhaps? Everything we cannot help but give a word to after failing to articulate it?

    In my most humble opinion, neither are. As an effect of consciousness, time is always kept after the event.

    Nor out of time! lol ;)

    Time may be nothing in itself, but infinity?! Does finitude ring true? Humanly, we cry out that it does. I seem to be getting beyond that. lol


    Sure. But I'm not sure I said what thedope said backwards!

    ??!!!?! What a terrible thing to say! The poor things! lol I am of the opinion that we love creating way too much to want that kind of control. :D

    All that occurs now occurs because it occurs, now.

    I'm not going to pretend to comprehend the extent that we own and do not rent.

    lol
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  2. PositiveVibrations88

    PositiveVibrations88 Member

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    I don't know about that one bro. I was always hoping for something like that but in realitythe best we can hope for is a "summer of love revisited" if and when bud becomes legal to smoke for everyone. To my mind these so called "neo-hippies" are too wrapped up in the past. To busy revisiting woodstock and getting high to hendrix in their parents basement. Of course I don't mean everyone, this is a timid observation of northern michigan "hippies" which I think is more a front for getting high around here. What I'm getting at is if we want to make a stand we need to have our own culture and new ideas. Sure, we can build on what our forehippies did for us but its up to us to fuck the system and rock the boat of fucked up sheeplike consumer america. And remember... as much as you think obama is going to do for us (and don't get me wrong, he has done some good for america) he is still a politician. I feel like everyone gave up when bush left office. This is what happened in the seventies when lbj was out. People had this "mission accomplished" attitude and went to the country or whatever they did. We have strength in numbers people! Let's use it!
     
  3. Lafincoyote

    Lafincoyote Member

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    Going back to nature is hard work, and most people want to escape the labor involved in a self sustaining lifestyle espoused by the first wave of revolutionaries which were labled Hippies.

    Another problem is that in the late 60's and early 70's there was alot more spare capital available to the early trailblazers in this arena.

    I myself am still acting as a pointman for the first phase of the revolution, as I do organic gardening, and all my tilling is done with hand tools. I have cut my energy expenditures, raised several children who have the ability to think for themselves, live very close to the land, and enjoy a bounty of wild foods on my table besides what is cultivated.

    I do work a regular job within the system, and I think that is going to be the biggest difference between the original movement, and what we are doing now.

    There will be no 2nd independent Hippie movement, but rather phase 2 of the original revolution which actually began in the 50's with the Beatnick movement. To us involved in the struggle, the distinction between the phases of the revolution may appear blurred at times, but will be easily assimilated by future historians into a single movement containing different phases.

    Get busy, life is passing you by, and the revolution needs your individual participation and support!
     
  4. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I should say the measure you give is the measure you receive.
    If you own a five acre lawn then you must care for a five acre lawn. When you own a house the maintenance and care of that house falls to you. Our possessions possess our time and effort. What I mean is that we are equally possessed by those things we possess.
    Your attention produces a stretching, a tone which is added to the composition of being. a mind at peace is the locus of peaceful being. A moments peace is a peaceful moment.
    That all actions are equal is a linguistic depiction of the most basic law of cause and effect. The Newtonian expression for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, is a linguistic formula that does not depict activity at all, which you can see when you transpose the formula to numbers, 1+-1=0. Every action is met with equal but not opposite force. 1+1=2, this is extension or creation.
    All things transpire in the moment of now.
    I don't know what your contention is but a I would like to. The answer to your question is there is no secret task, this is what occurs in the open for all to see. Give all to all.
     
  5. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    The "first" Hippie revolution was hardly a revolution. The New Lexicon Websters Encyclopedic Dictionary defines 'revolution' as; An unconstitutional overthrow of an established government/any fundamental complete change.

    What happened during the hippie era of the 1960's was hardly then a revolution. It was a step towards one perhaps. But mostly it was a cultural movement, devoid of any deeply ingrained desire for moral change in most of the masses. Certainly not enough to overthrow the established government. For many, as it seems to be today, as Stinkfoot put it, "it was nothing more than a soundtrack and a wardrobe." It seemed to be about personal liberation and freedom of choice, thought, and action, than it was about anything else. In a sense those who spoke out got some of what they desired, woman are getting closer to equality today, as are African Americans, and other minorities. People became more excepting of sex, sexual issues, and sexual health related issues such as abortions. Homosexuals gained some ground as well.

    A lot of the liberation that went on in the sixties however seems to be an illusion, such as the drug culture. LSD as a whole was funded by the government itself through a well thought out system of supply and demand. Many of the top doctors and psychologists in the country (the US) were given LSD from people who worked for the CIA and other government agencies. Many of those doctors gave it away to their younger understudies as they had no use for it. Those understudies took it, shared it with their artist friends and graduate students, who shared it with their friends, and so on. So was this really a drug fueled liberation? Or was it a cleverly disguised social experiment where the users were the little white mice?

    Regardless, what we had was a movement towards personal liberation of different sorts, and an outcry from a certain amount of individuals, concerned about such issues as the state of the political system, the war in Vietnam, and human rights. However a revolution requires enough concerned individuals to make a complete change. That did not happen. Thus we must be waiting for the first hippie revolution to happen. Considering the varying definitions of "hippie", the media teat so many seem to be so comfortably pacified by, and the complete lack of empathy and compassion of today's generations, I think it's safe to say that the first hippie revolution is nowhere on the horizon. Many people today define things using the almighty media. Many of today's hippies are no different than they were fourty years ago; listen to current music with a whisper of artificial concern, wear what is cheapest or, "against the norm," with the hopes of being recognised as an alternative, thinking individual. As it did then, media and music are still defining the change, and thus there will never be change. Because those in music and media love their money. What we should be calling for is a philanthropic revolution. At least that has a concrete definition that is hard to blur no matter how much money you throw at it. Here's a slogan for when the revolution comes;

    "We want happiness in every individual! How you find it is your choice as long as it doesn't hurt another living thing. We want freedom in the sense that what we choose as a way of life should be granted and respected as long as we are not hurting another living thing! We want peace! The kind you get when every individual is taken care of and treated respectfully and allowed to live their life the way they choose. When do we want it? Now!"
     
  6. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    While I appreciate the sentiment. I grew up with a father who farms using horses who now runs a school for sustainable agriculture, who encouraged me to read and think for myself, and even discussed what I read. And from what I've read even the Beatnicks were an odd mixture extension of the Existentialist and Transcendentalist movements. Those Movements were just extentions of movements that came before them. I've said it before that these "Movements" have arbitrary dates put on them by historians when all they are are Paridigm shifts. Just subtle and not so subtle shifts in the way we think. That is why I think this discussion is a little ludacris. Just as some people involved with the beat movement dropped off when the Hippies came in some of the hippies dropped off when the Punks and Yuppies came in.

    There was allways a Bohemian Underground with it's own culture and social customs. That culture has allways grown changed and evolved just as straight culture has grown changed and evolved. There has been numerous books written about that counterculture, literature that became the folklore of that culture, artifacts of that culture and first person accounts of the history of that culture. If you ever read "The Razors Edge" by Somerset Maughm the charachter of Larry essentially lead the Hippie/Bohemian lifestyle in Paris after WWI with trips to Tibet and Northern India to study with Gurus along the way.

    This concept of Hippie or Bohemian is just a meaningless name put upon us by a society that loves labels. It is an imaginary set of dates we use so that we can believe that a certain mindset has come and gone. So "The Hippie Movement" is still with us with a new set of tools that we can use. But in all actuality there is only so much looking at the past we can do.

    I'm a believer in the 7 generation theory in it's actuality. It seems that some well intentioned but generally confused individuals have spread the idea that when we make important decisions that we should think about the next 7 generations. The actual Native American teaching is that we hould think of 7 gerneations our Great Grandparents, our Grandparents, our Parents, Ourselves, our Children, our Grandchildren, and our Greatgrandchildren. I try to respect this as much as possible. I have talked to my grandmother about old home remedies for allergies and artheritis. I have talked to my father about poltics, the environment, and the movement so to speak so I can understand how it evolved to where it is now and come to some sort of understanding of where it is going and what my part in all of it is.

    My response is PFFFT fuck revolution give me evolution. That's right kids it's time to mutate. Fuck it it's time for it to grow legs and start walking on land. Ok I see where the last group who tried this fucked up it's time to do what they did right and cast off what they did wrong.

    Peace Out,
    Rev J
     
  7. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Rev J puts the issue in clear perspective. The common denominator of all these, movements, is the discontent of youth. Not being the native environ of the youthful spirit but rather symptomatic of a diet of sour grapes. These movements occur because the pressure of conformity is inhumane to the spirit of the individual. Things grow, we grow. Encourage growth not compliance.
     
  8. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    This is what I like to hear! But can I believe it? Why then is eternity still only to be found in death?! What is it we are doing wrong? Is it a matter of waiting? Evolution, even our most patient active conscious kind, is as painful as revolution, albeit nowhere near as sudden. My solution, my contention, is a kind of retention. Celebration, for want of subtler imputation. Everyone is here. We're missing no-one. It has been high time since before my own time! You asked me if I am an arsonist, but I am still only learning how to set us all alight. I have the balls but my brain tells me I will need back-up. lol

    Where are my mushrooms? Why are they being hidden?

    Let's get legs.
     
  9. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Personally I've heard no reports from death, I don't know what is found there.
    Other than stories I have been told, I am unaware of a time when I was not.
    What is it we do wrong,
    "All lies in jest till a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest."

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  10. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    lol I can count on you to survive!

    I want all in the picture inside me at once.



    Let's not let death seal the deal, or be felt in anything not yet dealt.
     
  11. PartyPunk93

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    Kinda depresses me walkin through the local k mart and seeing "hippy" clothing, so now people walk down the street in their "hippy" clothing thinking its a trend not a way of life.
    I dont even like the word hippy or any stereotype, as people think its just a trend.
     
  12. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    As long as you can still get K there

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9HkVCz_SRc"]YouTube- Natural Mystic - Slow Waves (Drum and Bass / Jungle)
     
  13. chrizt1an

    chrizt1an Member

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    I'm with u my brother.....

     
  14. lilymae

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    The Age of Aquarius is nearing my brothers and sisters...and grey area!!! I don't know if it will be a 'hippie revolution' but I think something has to change. All the signs are pointing that way and we just need to go with it!! Love!
     
  15. MisterMudz

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    There is definitely a lot that needs to be done.
     
  16. Popa Rabbit

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    "We must be the change we wish to see." ~ Mohandas K. Gandhi
     
  17. Breezefreedom

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    This is my generation your all talking about. Teens now a days are counted out and we don't feel a sense of belonging. Most (emphasis on most because its not all) see whats going on with environment and we see how corrupt government is, were just looking for someone whether it be a music group or an influential person to make some sort of revolution or rebellion. I can say that all teens including myself are looking for something that we can be a part of and contribute to. Drugs are running wild with us not to mention lol
     
  18. seventy

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    2020s seems about right to me, just after the current economic situation has resolved itself.
    A rennaissance needs affluence and new inventions to make it possible.
     
  19. Vongaelly

    Vongaelly Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Who knows such things. Go with the flow, preach your own word and see what happens. Don't stress out about something you can't change either. If you see the spark of a good revolution though... don't hesitate to help it if you support it man, there is always need of revolution.
     

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