Is American flag culture bad?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by unfocusedanakin, Jul 6, 2020.

  1. Orison

    Orison my dog is full of stars Lifetime Supporter

    Yinz should go to the veterans cemeteries and yank em all out and piss on them..
  2. Tishomingo

    Tishomingo Members

    Yinz? Who is that? Your comment following my post suggests you might be referring to me, which suggests you didn't read the post.
  3. Eleven

    Eleven Member

    Oh, I'm sure there are people working malevolently to weaken the border. "Mother Jones" had a story a few years ago. Hormel sped up it's line so much workers became ill. Hormel was so sympathetic, and did all it could to help. Then, low and behold, Hormel "discovered" the workers were in the country illegally. No more liability! No more workers' compensation!

    The people in the board rooms are smart enough to know that illegals come with such a potential advantage. Besides, when the country has 11-13 million here illegally, that is bad in many ways. It's bad for the environment. Those millions were not checked to see if they had criminal records, or were wanted for crimes in Mexico. Their precarious status here makes it easier for employers to dominate them.

    The irony is that the anarchists, Marxists, and others in the far left are on the same side of the issue as the 1%.
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2020
  4. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member HipForums Supporter

    I don't know, man...

    I don't see that as an advantage. It's like one crackdown away from being a liability. I agree that no one holds them accountable though.

    Really, I don't see a border issue. I see a human rights one though. And I think that's where you see a lot of conservative ideologues losing the battle because they attempt to discount the validity of the human rights aspect of immigration or asylum or the visa program and travel bans.

    They place a limit with half-good intentions, but I think ultimately greed will be the undoing of those policies. At least for the whole wanting only educated immigrants and stuff like that. It's just a bad policy I think.
  5. Eleven

    Eleven Member

    I took a class once, by a man who worked with police and studied murder cases. And I know about all the femicides in Juarez. I'm all for screening people. Heck, if communes can insist people schedule visits, and then make them go through a provisional membership, the country can do the equivalent.
  6. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

    Funny because I have said the same thing I said here to a room full of vets. They didn't care. And much to your sadness I'm sure no one punched me. They were all left wing types who feel let down by the service though. They don't watch Fox as far I know.

    Don't be such a snowflake it's just a piece of cloth that means nothing compared to standing up for what really matters. If there is no debate or free speech why serve? Like I said they worry about this stuff in North Korea and China not here.

    There is a big difference between honoring service and worshiping it at the cost of making their death in vein. Sad you don't see the difference.
  7. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

    I may not stand for an anthem but I would never place the American flag on my ass because it's my shorts or break many other rules. Until the right wing stops doing the same I don't think they have a leg to stand on.

    All my examples here can be found in abundance in right wing circles. Who really hates the flag?

    4 U.S. Code § 8 - Respect for flag

    The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.


    The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.


    The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.

    The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.


    No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.


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  8. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

    I get your point but I don’t think those examples count as actual flags under the law. Since those items were not cut from an actual flag they don’t count. Instead they just borrow the colors and design from the flag. That’s why those things are exempt.

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