Is "America Attack" now over?

the ones remaining are still very valuable. no one will ever know EVERYTHING that happened in a person's mind. that's besides the point. wee don't pick our friends and lovers based on EVERYTHING being spot on perfect match for us, we choose them based on the most important things being an acceptable match for us. the rest is compromise.

 

I like the parrables. I'm not disputing that they have a good message.
But, many a historical figure has had their image re-cast to a more favourable one. Perhaps you and guy are right and he is a wonderful caring man.

 

that's my take on it.

 

I'm yet to be converted.

 

that's cool. i'm not a buddhist. *shrugs* it all seems about personal preference.

 

I did just mean to the notion Jesus was the man guy has made him.
But, my preference is to reject religeon and spirituality.

 

hip forums playing up

can't be bothered typing out reply

you get the picture

the people using christianity to promote war go against the main principles of the teachings of jesus are not christians.

 

i agree. it's just another convenient flag people fly to acheive their ends and galvanize the little people. whether that flag is "communism," "democracy," "socialism," "islam," etc, it all ends up the same thing, people at the top doing whatever they please while the little people with less resources and less education doing their dirty work and becoming true believers.

 

BS mate, BS. You seem more fixated on religeon than any politician I have heard. Plus, you have to remember the Afghan and Iraqi army are trying to do the same thing as western forces are doing.

 

and you my friend are someone unwilling to fight in the war that you promote. you are a very angry person, i suggest a nice sit down and some herbal tea.

its not my fault that your friends have started a war they can't finish

you only need look in the mirror to answer your own question

 

oh yes matthew

i suggest you read the fall of jerusalem by josephus, as i suggested before its not a big ask

it is a relatively small book, you'll find it in any good book shop or library

 

jesus in history is an interesting one, too.

 

It was a few posts back but I did say: "I don't see the relevance but I'll check it out."

I was thinking the same thing about you, to be honest.

 

sorry i don't buy into your war promoting gobbledegook that you have incessantly promoted

shame you won't go to war

 

lol...Wer'e talking about Jesus, mate.

 

We are going on the 3rd year of Obama, what do you think now?

Personally, i think...
lol, all of their children go to the same schools, all of them are apart of the same club and all of them have more power and money than any of us..

You say this is about Jesus i saw in one post, okay well jesus believed NO rich man could get into heaven and the rich were to corrupt to be in gods grace..

So......

With the current bills being passed and the public sceptisism still the same as the old, i will have to say i believe its all a ploy...

He's the first black president and he is suspected to be muslim. Who better to blame for the laws that have just been passed that take our freedom?

For instance...The second world war
Hitler conveinced a entire race to hate and sacrifice another race by blaming the hardships they faced on another them...

History has proven when humans are struggling and going without you can munipulate them into leaning your way and the minority or different will be to blame...
Creating sceptisism is the easiest way to calm the hungry..

This isn't a war for equality, freedom, or safety, its a ploy to keep people in fear of the unknown so that the big wiggs can use war as a way to make money.

Im sorry but they are smarter than us.... They keep secrets that know would inlighten us and limit thier control of everything...

Look at the WAR ON DRUGS, if they wanted to really fight that war they would defend the mexicans who are under the thumb of the drug cartel instead of imprisoning them for being refugees.
The war on organized crime and how are they now in control of our unions and politics.
The war on child abuse thats now an epidemic, why are they covering for child molesters in our colleges and churchs?
The war on energy, Why are we raising the price of energy and saying its to control consumption in a recession?

Do you know?????
Probably not, so let me ask this...
Do you know how inflation works?
Nessecity creats a market, consumption and nessesity control the price..
The more you buy the more they see you need it/want it and that decides how much they feel they can get away with chargeing you for it.

okay, next..
A bank runs because it has money in it, just like a home...
Calateral and equity increases by how many memebers/ or payments are confirmed. If they can prove that say 10,000 people at 1,000 a person are invested in that bank they can barrow a percentage of that amount for their own purpose...

The dea has to have a set amount of money just to pay their employees, the amount of money they recieve in contibution depicts how many work for this effort, as well as how hard the effort is faught.

As a women who is making it on her own i have to juggle bills and/or barrow to cover bills, what i can barrow is based off of what i can prove im recieving to insure i can budget what i owe. If i have bills that are 1500 a month and only make 1000 how do i cover that and prove i can afford a lone? Well i get a roomate and prove i can expect atleast half of that will be covered because they owe it to me for providing them with a home(Payrole, Taxes, and balancing a budget). Right now americans are in fear of drug dealers and want our government to protect us from it right. Ok well if this government says we can't afford to protect you unless you pay for it and more to insure we do it and provide proof they can count on our contribution by raise taxes...
When the goverment is corrupt and they spend that money on other things they stiil have to make it up by raising taxes or barrowing which leads to creating a new cause, like terrorism...

It kinda reminds me of the old mafia turf wars and when they muscled people into paying them to protect them from being robbed.. Incase you didn't know they would pay a few kids to robe a place to make them feel unsafe and then show up a coulple days later offering protection for a price.

 

Speaking of secrets and such and parallel to considering just what Jesus'es Philosophies perhaps more could be learned about that were most Christian types not hamstrung by conventional renditions of his life on earth and instead look more closely at the Books which were removed from the official bible by the political leaders of the day nearly 1900 years ago,,,

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html

 

If we would open our minds and excepted the fundementals that give all the other laws substance rather than the propaganda it might be easier for some to interprit. We could compare the ups and downs in our life to this code and maybe even relativity or physics ingeneral in a metaphorical and litteral since... For every action there is a reaction...
Maybe I simplify things to much sometimes and maybe i over complicate things too, but the 10 comandments for instance.. What are the fundimentals behind those..
Dont take life; life may be taken from you and you'll have to live with it or die for it eventually, Dont steel; something not erned is not valued and just leads you to a fruitless purcuit to have what others have, Don't judge; someone may do the same to you then your flaws may be expossed as well, dont commit adultry, you may have kids and then have to explain to them why your divorsed while trying to convence them to not make the same mistakes plus a relationship started on a lie leaves no room for trust once the excitment wares off, dont covet; you'll waist your time away compating yourself to other while never realizing what you have and are capable of as an individual, even dont take the lords name in vain your passing blame that way instead of facing whats infront of you or giving glory to yourself which is prejudism at its finest, Dont bare a false witness you give a liar control and open the door to corruption and confusion, honor your mother and father because evntually you will have kids and will make mistakes according to them despite your best efforts, dont worship idles they have know answers and can be washed away at any given moment by a forse of nature and then what do you have? Remember the sabbath day and keep it whole, if you work six days a week how important is that one day off and how does it effect your inner peace and understanding.
Last but not least, worship no other gods but me, the fundementals in most religions are the same as the 10 commandments and any natural balance that exist had to be created or it wouldnt be as balanced. Its obvious to me that everything that produces energy is alive and there is an equal reaction to the existance of energy or for a better explination consequence to every action. Like a negitive vib that forces you out of one laction and to another no matter the cause. Where does this instinct come form?
Any belief that feeds a war or act that supresses another dew to their views because they are different are wrong, this is evident in the history of the native americans. I'm not saying evil doesn't exist but we take this message out of context and inevitably creat more evil, those in control munipulate this through fear to help it a long so they can maintane control over what ever is important to them at the time..
The only thing that should be gained from war is first suffering and then peace, not profit, if someone is able to profit or gain off of a war then its more than likely a false cause..
If we trace back history we can see that christianity was created from popularity after jesus died at the hands of those who later would say he should be worshiped... The only things these so called wholy men have to prove his existance asside from historical interpritations of what he preached which are idles(the wholy grail, the shroud, the cup thats sacred because peter supposedly drank from it with jesus before he died, and the bowl he supposedly ate with the other desiples).. other half are the historical account and half of those were not located until recently the other half were devided into two stacks the gosples that benifited the cause at the time and the gosplels they have hidden or tried to dicredit...


Remember jesus said those that have evil in their will; will use my words to decieve and control you...

Eventually we will have to except are own acts of terror, dew to forcing our views on another..

Jesus wanted us to except each other and live in harmony.....

 

WORLDWIDE CONQUEST: The U.S. Prepares for "Global Unmanned Warfare"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28914

 

Well crap Midgard, that just blew my happy vibe for the morning.

It's ok, you dont make the news, you just share it. :cheers2: