Iran Inks Nuke Deal With World Powers

Does any country really care what another country does on their own soil? Countries/people only care when it affects them. Which is natural, Bears don't care what other Bears do on their own territory, just don't come over to theirs and spray your musk. But alas this whole Self Awareness mess that causes all this empathy in the Human Species.

TBH, most of those running around crying Allah and beheading people, were funded by the West at some point. So essentially, the West needs to clean up its own mess by entering these countries and removing the threat that they created in the first place. They just call it Terrorism and need a Trillion Dollars to do it. Their "creations" have said, thanks for the training and weapons, now F off.

This has been going on for 1000's of yrs. From the Roman, Greek, Carthage era to the British, Dutch, Spanish of the last 1000 yrs, now America, lesser extent Russia. Soon it will be China, Iran, and Russia. Superpowers change every so often, it is just a matter of who has set themselves up to "take the roll over"

 

Yeah, like in 1953, when we meddled in the affairs of Iran. Only a moron would believe that that had to do with their system of justice.

 

Yeah, that's called an ally . . .

 

I see America doing all the fighting.

I see other nations helping the civilians, setting up camps, random patrols away from the fighting etc. not saying America don't do these things either, but at the same time, I'm not really seeing any other nation involved in much of the fighting.

Nor do I read about many other nations loading the Middle East up with coin and weapons. Everything you're on about, I see America.

 

The UK had 46,000 troops in Iraq.

America is not doing all the fighting in the Middle East. The UK launched airstrikes in Iraq against ISIS. Australian aircraft started flying over Iraq in support of allied operations. French planes have also taken part in airstrikes against Isis. Germany has also said it was sending military assistance to the Kurdish region to fight ISIS. Canada has contributed aircraft and personnel in the fight against ISIS. The Dutch government said it would contribute six F-16 fighter jets as well 250 troops to join in anti-ISIS airstrikes.

 

^^ +1

Most foreign military is with the UN peace Keepers. America does the "Fighting" because they are the most capable, ready and persistent enough to do it.

Polish Army Special Forces, French Foreign legion and the Japanese Army also contributed in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as Peruvian military training the Afghan civilian security force. And lets not forget the trigger happy Israelies.

Almost every country is at some point fighting, it doesn't mean actual front line fighting but contributing in their own limited way.

All anyone every sees is America doing the fighting cause that's what the Media/Govt wants us to see and that gets ratings. The good the other countries are doing goes unnoticed because the world doesn't care about the "Good" that is done and if they do, it is noted as a side caption of news under what one of the Kardashians are wearing today.

 

The point is that America was not, and is not, doing all the fighting. Providing personnel, airstrikes and the aircraft necessary to those airstrikes is called fighting. And what good came from killing hundreds of thousands of people who were not Saddam Hussein, and bombing their country back to the stone-age where, more than a decade later, they still don't have adequate electricity? And all the killing and destruction was based on lies.

 

Y'know, this Iran nuke summit got so much daily press coverage here in US of A that I wondered whether this sham wasn't press-driven: to remind us of enemies, world tensions, pending Armageddon.
Seems that back in the late 90s, when a country called Pakistan actually tested its new nuke arsenal, there was no preceding nuke summit, there were lame U.S. sanctions that were quickly withdrawn; moreover, Pakistan @the time was a sieve for the blossoming terrorist industry, a revolving door for Taliban, al-Qaeda trainees. But we'd already labeled Pakistan an ally in our nascent war on terror, so its nukes were OK?
Now we're stuck w/ ISIS/ISIL, funded in large part by more allies in the war on terror---Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey---, but Iran: that gets the nuke summit. I'm left to conclude that the primary job of our free press is to enforce stereotypes & ensure all manner of symbolism (Confederate battle flags, rage killings, Wall Street) remains the focus of the general population. Oh, & enforce that concept of "fair & balanced," since most of the "reporting" is unfair & imbalanced.
Evidently, our press can only "do its job" if we're all cowering in a corner.

 

I was and am agreeing with you. I am too pointing out that it is not all just America.

At the time i said bomb the shi! out of them GW, but as it went on, my views changed and I woke up to the fact that it was a sham and so is most of what comes out of the Governmental press.

They still have no elect or the basics because the fighting will never end and there is no real chance to sustain these utilities. The people guarding these places, drop everything and run at the sound of an incoming vehicle. Previous wars like WW1 and WW2, war did actually end and had a real chance at rebuilding.

I do not count Korea, Vietnam and both Iraq as deathly important wars. There was no need to defend the world against an enemy whereas in both 1 and 2, there was a definant cause to go to War and had Japan not attack Pearl Harbor or Germany didn't try and take Russia in winter, we may have a different world as we know it.

IMO though, Hitler as Yamashita in Japan would have had every Army Soldier sent to their death fighting instead of saying " well we did take over half of Europe/Pacific, lets secure the borders and regroup."

 

Agree

Korea- Launches Missles, threatens the South, Japan = America sends them money. All quiet until they run out of Money again.

I don't see Obama telling Putin to layoff the Nukes or not to sell them to the "enemys"

Israel - hey, do what you want and here have some more planes and weapons, Nukes? what nukes?.

Boko Haram = Who? What 300 schoolgirls

Palenstine - well we know you were there first, but hey, the Jews man, they have had it tough since Moses ( see Israel as well)

Libya- see Israel

Iran, hey here is a Nuke deal and don't worry about the American prisoners, we have that covered by giving the all clear for Gay Marriage and the abolishment of the Confederate Flag in our media outlets. That should do the job, I mean hey, we did slide Bengahzi under the table and we all know what happened there. And if that don't work we always have our false flag, we will just have a "shooter" knock of some people and call it Domestic Terrorism

News went downhill when the top 3, FOX, CNN, MSNBC ( I think it was CNN first) decided to go 24 hrs in the early 90's and so did every other outlet. Now we have hundreds of news outlets spralled across the net talking about the same thing, interviewing the same person that every other outlet is reporting on and giving its own take on it.

There is no place for "Fair and Balanced" in the world of ratings

This is a sarcastic post written on the medias behalf

 

What really gets me is how people parrot the media's chant: Iran's nuclear weapons program. Repeat something often enough, and pretty soon it's an "established fact." Again, what nuclear weapons program?

 

The US is responsible. The nuclear genie was released from the bottle by lax security measures. If the program had maintained integrity, we would not see the proliferation we see today. The fact that North Korea, a nation that couldn't naturally develop nukes in a century, was able to produce compact nukes is certain proof that chaos is soon to rule this planet. Anyone cheering for this is a moron. Sure, the planet will survive, radiation has been a constant threat. But human civilization is another matter.

The idea that Iran or any other nation, including the US, has some sort of "right" to nuclear weapons is ludicrous. But again, the genie has been released. So the US is responsible, ultimately, for the proliferation. So, should the US rein this in? Or just sit back and hope for the best?

Also, ANY nuclear waste, even from medical research, can be weaponized. Easily. So the assumption that sweet little Iran won't use that, after being global assholes for so long, is naive. Like any humans, give them a reason and they will use their maximum force. I often wonder where the "No Nukes" movement went. What use does an oil-rich nation have for something as expensive as nuclear power? To prevent pollution? HAH!

 

If you had researched that issue, you would know that Iran doesn't have the capability to refine enough of its oil to meet it's needs. It is every nation's right to produce nuclear energy. But we can just cut to the chase here and you can provide some evidence of Iran's "nuclear weapons program."

 

I see ANY of this as just the ongoing process of separating the various countries around the world from their resources, in order for our military-industrial-legislative complex to confiscate them. If Iran did not hate and continually call for the destruction of Israel, no attention would be paid to them. It seems that we always get our tits in a wringer dealing with middle eastern countries. Whether this agreement will work or not, Israel is going to have the last word. And by word, I mean BOOM!!

 

I'm old enough to remember when US of A was "meddling" in France's nuke program (c. 1961-2). Don't recall particulars, but I think the US of A was offering aid in exchange for restrictions. What I do remember was a photo in a Chicago newspaper: President & Mrs. DeGaulle, with a caption that read, "Come, Charles; we'll make our OWN bomb!"

 

Oh, you mean when their president made his "Israel must be wiped off the face of the map" comment?

EDIT: Just looked into it. Turns out he didn't say that. However, Israeli leaders do hate, and continually call for the destruction of Iran.

 

Nah--I think it was the so-called ayatolla(sp?)that said it. They say he has the last word. Agree on the hate part. Seems to be an abundance of hate all over the middle east. Plenty to go around.

 

Point is that neither of them said that Israel must be wiped off the face of the map.

 

This was a dick thing to open with. I'm not interested in discussing any matters with yet another dick. It's clear from your responses that you have no interest in a reasonable debate. Only your opinion matters, so what's the point?

 

Yes but the point is that it is OUT THERE regardless if it was said or not. Israel is the biggest instigator to the middle east. When there is peace or cease fires, Israel is usually the first to restart the tensions. America in its insecurity needs to tell Israel, " You know what, we have backed you for 60 yrs, now you are on your own."

Stop the tip toeing and man up.

Hollywood would be up in arms and I say, too fucking bad.